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Subject: Re: Opteron vs. XP

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 18:56:00 07/01/03

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On June 30, 2003 at 16:04:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 29, 2003 at 23:44:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>That's one I will wait to actually measure.  I don't personally believe 40ns
>>is doable, where current machines are hitting 120ns unless using registered
>>DRAM.
>
>You are *not* hitting 120 ns. You need more like 380 ns for a *random* access
>into the memory (like for example hashtable). The 120 ns is based upon
>sequential stuff and as we both know chess is not like that. The exact technical
>working i do not know 100% of the ram, but it is like this. it has some lines
>opened. If you keep reasking from that same line then it is faster than when it
>has to close it and reopen another.

If you do a memory access on an already open page, to an open bank, you'll get
something less than 75ns with any normal hardware today.
On a completely random access on a 1cpu machine, you should not see more than
150ns.  If you do, something is very wrong.

>the access times of the dual Xeon as i measured them and dual MPs are more near
>400 ns. Using my own software of course. i did some hard work there making
>a bench. amazingly it is also pretty accurate at the x86 hardware.
>
>The fastest timings (no surprise) are single cpu solutions. Those go to around
>280 ns to get a random lookup. Both P4 and K7s. Of course i didn't measure
>overclocked stuff.
>
>the lookup in all cases is 8 bytes by the way. I just want to know *latency*.

Your testing sucks.



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