Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 16:03:21 07/02/03
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On July 02, 2003 at 18:34:17, Aaron Gordon wrote: >Any chip that has any overclocking problems has failed extremely fast with >BurnK7 and Prime95 from my experiences. I've had friends that played Quake, did >other games & encoding.. I told them that is definitely NOT good stability >testing. They swore up and down their PC was stable, soon one of my friends >fired up BurnK7 the machine rebooted instantly. That is just how harsh it is. It may be a good test, but you seem to be under the impression it is foolproof. >These chips run BurnK7 flawless, and aren't clocked anywhere near the "edge" of >stability. You don't know how close they are to the limit. When you clock them that high they burn watts like crazy, and if the average user doesn't have enough cooling... >It's a pitty people don't understand AMD/Intel make all chips 1 speed and then >mark them to whatever the market demands (be it 1700+ or 3200+). See my post >here for more details on my testing methods: I know those speculations, I just don't know if they are true. Have you ever heard an official statement backing it up? What I do know is that no two chips are identical, in spite of having the same core. I think they may even be sorted at the assemblyline and the best are used maybe in supercomputers. The chip makers probably have some high tech hardware and software that can rigorously test the chips in no time. >If the chip is that "on edge" stability wise, to where there are potential >problems running your every day applications BurnK7 will push it over the edge >just from the heat increase alone (you can verify this via my formulas in the >URL above), or at the very minimum make the system extremely unstable instead of >rebooting/locking up. Once you find out what your chip can do then you can >adjust the clock/voltage to run completely stable speeds. Most people are too >fixated with, "overclocking == running on the complete edge of stability". >Thats >not whats going on here at all. Seti always rises my temp by 8 deg. but usually doesn't cause crashes. If unstable it tends to hang while loading some game, in my experience, though I've stopped overclocking. I know a guy that always runs his dual OC'ed. He gets about one crash a month, but he assures me it is completely stable :) I'll ask him to run BurnK7 and see if that can make it crash instantly, I think chances are slim though, he runs simulations 24/7 (octtree codes). He has massive coolers with thermostats, but still crashing once a month or so :) -S.
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