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Subject: Re: MTD(f)

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 13:31:04 07/04/03

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On July 04, 2003 at 15:44:53, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On July 04, 2003 at 11:38:09, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On July 04, 2003 at 11:18:58, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On July 03, 2003 at 13:57:02, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 03, 2003 at 12:28:05, Ralph Stoesser wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Dear chess programmers,
>>>>>
>>>>>What are your personal experiences with the MTD(f) search introduced by Aske
>>>>>Plaat some years ago?
>>>>
>>>>It does not work for me as well as it does for some others.
>>>>
>>>>I think success will depend very much on your particular engine.
>>>>
>>>>Andrew Williams has a successful implementation.
>>>
>>>Claims to have a successful implementation is more near the truth.
>>>
>>
>>I am a bit surprised to read this. I sincerely hope you're not claiming that I'm
>>lying about my implementation?
>
>No i just said that you *claim* to have a successful implementation.
>
>I didn't say a word more or less than that. I would be the last in the world to
>suggest you are a liar as everyone knows you are honest.
>
>I did imply however that i doubt that your implementation of MTD will use less
>nodes on average when all the participants of the world champs 2003 would get
>rid of the PVS that they use and use MTD instead.
>

Sorry Vincent, I misunderstood what you were saying.

Actually, *I* didn't claim that my implementation was successful, Dann said
that. I also wouldn't suggest that others should switch their successful PVS
implementations to MTD. My view is that it probably doesn't make a huge
difference either way, assuming you put some effort into your chosen technique.
I would however reiterate the point you're making about the hashtable. It is
*VERY* important to have an efficient implementation. Also, the larger the
table, the better.

Cheers

Andrew



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