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Subject: Re: 64 Bit Programs

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 14:10:37 07/04/03

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On July 04, 2003 at 15:33:47, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On July 04, 2003 at 04:53:56, Bo Persson wrote:
>
>>On July 03, 2003 at 20:25:18, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On July 03, 2003 at 19:18:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>>>>Sorry, but the X86 _started_ as an 8-bit cpu capable of doing 16 bit math.
>>>>>>It grew to 16 bits in the 80286 and 32 bits in the 80386.  But it was
>>>>>>originally an 8 bit ISA.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wrong, the 8086 (the first x86) is a 16-bit processor. The 8088 used in the
>>>>>original PC was a variant of the 8086 with an 8-bit data bus, maybe that's why
>>>>>you're confused.
>>>>
>>>>The _first_ was the 8080 and it was _not_ a 16 bit cpu.  The 8086 was the
>>>
>>>Uhhhhhhhhhhh, Bob? Does it make a lot of sense to call the 8080 an "x86"? Hint:
>>>there's a reason why the 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, and 80486 are called "x86"s.
>>>Can you think of what that reason is?
>>
>>Seems like their names ends in "86"? How about Pentium?
>
>I suppose if you wanted to get really pedantic, you wouldn't call a Pentium an
>x86. Maybe that's why Intel has been trying to rename it to "IA32." Whatever
>your take on the Pentium, I don't see how you can make "x86" retroactive to
>apply to the 8080.

The original Pentium was, indeed, a true 'x86' processor.  Namely, 80586.  I
believe the Pentium Pro was supposed to be the 686, though I'm not totally sure,
but Intel seems to have abandoned the continuation of x86 numbers.



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