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Subject: Problem solved Re: Summer problem for FritzMark fans : finding ...

Author: Ernest Bonnem

Date: 05:14:40 07/05/03

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Thanks, Dave, the position you posted is indeed the FritzMark position :
same PVs and evals when you let Fritz 7 examine that position with fixed depth
10.

Something else I've always wanted to know : what is the "formula" for FritzMark
(as a function of time obtained, kN/s, what else...) ?


On July 04, 2003 at 11:49:35, David Dahlem wrote:

>On July 04, 2003 at 09:44:21, Ernest Bonnem wrote:
>
>>A few years ago somebody from Sweden (sorry, haven't kept the author's name or
>>the reference) gave the FritzMark position as :
>>1r5r/3b1pk1/3p1np1/p1qPp3/p1N1PbP1/2P2PN1/1PB1Q1K1/R3R3 b - - 0 1
>>
>>I recently had a new look at it and compared with the FritzMark PVs given by
>>Fritz 7 :
>>1...Bb5 2.Bd3 a4 3.Rh1 Rbc8 4.Nd2
>>  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 6/23   00:00:00  84kN
>>1...Bb5 2.Bd3 a4 3.Rh1 Rbc8 4.Nd2 Rb8
>>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 7/22   00:00:00  129kN
>>1...Rhc8!
>>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:01  234kN
>>1...Rhc8 2.Bd3 a4 3.Rh1 Bxg3 4.Kxg3 Bb5 5.Ne3 Bxd3
>>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:01  248kN
>>1...Rhc8!
>>  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 8/28   00:00:02  486kN
>>1...Rhc8 2.Bd3 Bb5 3.g5 Bxg5 4.Rxa5 Qc7 5.f4 Bxf4
>>  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 9/35   00:00:04  1169kN
>>1...Bb5!
>>  µ  (-0.88)   Depth: 9/35   00:00:06  1418kN
>>1...Bb5 2.Bd3 Rbc8 3.Rxa5 Qc7 4.Rea1 Bxc4 5.Bxc4 Qxc4 6.Qxc4 Rxc4 7.Rxa6 Rb8
>>  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:12  2979kN
>>
>>Obviously there is no black pawn on a4 and the corrected epd, with diagram, is :
>>
>>1r5r/3b1pk1/3p1np1/p1qPp3/2N1PbP1/2P2PN1/1PB1Q1K1/R3R3 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Thus we indeed get the 65 possible black moves (FritzMark indication), but I
>>have 2 problems with the position :
>>1. The last FritzMark PV indicates 1...Bb5 2.Bd3 Rbc8 3.Rxa5 Qc7,
>>but 2 ...Rbc8 and 3 ...Qc7 are faulty moves
>>2. When you let Fritz 7 examine the position with fixed depth 10, you don't get
>>the same evals and PVs.
>>
>>So maybe the FritzMark position isn't the one above...
>>Can you find a better one, or has ChessBase told you something about it :-))  ?
>
>I have this position stored on my drive as the Fritzmark position. I don't
>remember where it came from. :-)
>
>[D]1r5r/3b1pk1/p2p1np1/p1qPp3/2N1PbP1/2P2PN1/1PB1Q1K1/R3R3 b - - 0 1
>
>Dave



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