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Subject: Re: Is fritz, shredder or junior hyper-treading enabled?

Author: Peter Stayne

Date: 19:42:51 07/07/03

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Upon further reading, my assumption is incorrect, but the findings of
single-threaded apps getting a boost still seems to be true. Hence the three
links below and choice quotes:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20021114/p4_306ht-12.html

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1746&p=6

On which I quote:

Fundamentally we still only have one CPU and one set of execution units, so if
the OS dispatches two threads that contend for identical resources in the CPU
then HT could reduce performance.

In the earlier versions of Hyper-Threading, there were some pretty significant
performance drops in desktop applications with it enabled. Luckily through
revision after revision of the technology and through the addition of a few new
components (flip back a few pages to see what's new) the vast majority of
applications will see a performance increase or no performance loss at all

http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=50000332

Quote:

It is quite remarkable how almost every single threaded benchmark still got a
small performance boost from HyperThreading, between 1 and 5%. This shows that
HyperThreading has matured as it almost never decreased performance, as it did
in the first hyperthreaded Xeons.




On July 07, 2003 at 21:35:04, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On July 07, 2003 at 19:15:35, Peter Stayne wrote:
>
>>Nah, Daniel is right. Even non-SMP programs do gain a slight advantage in speed
>>with HT enabled, though minimal, benchmarks have shown this.
>
>Which benchmarks? I won't believe this until I see it. Operating systems take a
>fraction of 1% of your CPU to do housekeeping when you're running a chess
>program, and only a fraction of that could be offloaded to a 2nd CPU.
>
>-Tom



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