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Subject: Re: Is fritz, shredder or junior hyper-treading enabled?

Author: Peter Stayne

Date: 23:46:17 07/07/03

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Comanche 4 is not multithreaded.

On July 08, 2003 at 01:38:09, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On July 07, 2003 at 22:42:51, Peter Stayne wrote:
>
>>Upon further reading, my assumption is incorrect, but the findings of
>>single-threaded apps getting a boost still seems to be true. Hence the three
>>links below and choice quotes:
>>
>>http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20021114/p4_306ht-12.html
>>
>>http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1746&p=6
>>
>>On which I quote:
>>
>>Fundamentally we still only have one CPU and one set of execution units, so if
>>the OS dispatches two threads that contend for identical resources in the CPU
>>then HT could reduce performance.
>>
>>In the earlier versions of Hyper-Threading, there were some pretty significant
>>performance drops in desktop applications with it enabled. Luckily through
>>revision after revision of the technology and through the addition of a few new
>>components (flip back a few pages to see what's new) the vast majority of
>>applications will see a performance increase or no performance loss at all
>
>Right, the multithreaded apps will see an increase and the single threaded apps
>will see no performance loss. The benchmarks agree.
>
>>http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=50000332
>>
>>Quote:
>>
>>It is quite remarkable how almost every single threaded benchmark still got a
>>small performance boost from HyperThreading, between 1 and 5%. This shows that
>>HyperThreading has matured as it almost never decreased performance, as it did
>>in the first hyperthreaded Xeons.
>
>I don't see why Johan is saying this--all they tested was multitasking
>situations, multithreaded apps, and some games, and the only game that showed
>any statistically significant increase in performance, it wasn't clear if it was
>multithreaded or not. (My guess is, it was.)
>
>-Tom



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