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Subject: Re: Junior 5 Vs Fritz 5 Blitz Match.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 12:01:37 10/25/98

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On October 25, 1998 at 14:35:33, blass uri wrote:

>
>>Time control was 5'+ 5".
>
>>I had to use the same opening book for both Junior 5,& Fritz 5 in the blitz
>>match. The huge opening book for Fritz 5 alone was killing Junior 5 and its
>>smaller book at speed chess.
>
>What is the result if you use the huge opening book for fritz5 against Junior5's
>smaller opening book?

I don't remember the score, but if you look at the elo ratings on the Games I
posted on Fritz 5 vs Junior 5 at 30 sec a move. The ratings difference is huge:)
I played a blitz match first(so that elo is shown on the 30 sec. move games i
posted) but did not post the games because it would not have been fair to Junior
5 or to Mr. Ban to do so, when I knew what the problem was. And people on CCC
may not have known that Huge books can cause this when playing other programs
and smaller books at blitz speeds.

[Event "30"av"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1998.10.24"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Junior 5.0"]
[Black "Fritz 5.00/16Bit"]
[Result "0-1"][ECO "C82"]
[WhiteElo "2430"]................This was Junior 5's rating after the first
blitz match I rejected.
[BlackElo "2576"]................This was Fritz 5's
[PlyCount "92"]

I don't have the games to show you, because I deleted them after seeing the
problem.

>
>
>>In the blitz match both programs played the same opening position as white >and
>>black.
>
>>Fritz 5 8W 7L 9D
>
>>Junior5 7W 8L 9D
>
>You said in the past that at fast time control Fritz5(16 bit) is worse than
>fritz5.03.
>It even lost in the nunn match against Junior4.6 in the games that you posted.
>
>do you have the same opinion or maybe the version is not the same version?

I am not sure if its the same or not, I had to play this version fritz 5 that
came with junior 5 to play the match.

I would also play 5.16 anyways in testing, because that is the latest version,
and would not matter if I thought it was weaker or not.
>
>Uri



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