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Subject: Re: Apple G5 Comments

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:08:28 07/09/03

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On July 09, 2003 at 03:13:20, Albert Bertilsson wrote:

>There is no doubt the G5 would be great for Chess if a bitboard engine was
>compiled specially for it. But so would the Opteron.

Grow up. The Opteron will be 2 times faster for integer arithmetic than the G5.
Look at how stupid the execution units work at the G5.

How they cheat at the specint and still suck ass there.

For chess the G5 is a joke of a processor.

It's good for floating point though. It's optimized for floating point too don't
forget that. The average Mac user doesn't need integer arithmetic like we need
in chess. They need raw gflops and a fast video editting card.

O yeah i forgot, they usually need to earn a shitload of coins too, because i
completely agree with Dann Corbit here, they are *horribly* overpriced always.

>To get me switch platform to Apple something really fantastic would happen (Like
>apple 2x faster in everything including running windows) otherwise it's not

that will never happen. For chess either an AMD or Intel will of course wipe
away anything that Motorola can produce.

>worth the time investment needed to do the switch. As long as there are quite
>good PC alternatives most users will not switch to Apple (actually I think Apple
>is loosing market share (but I'm not sure)).

For apple it's not switching what they need. They simply need to upgrade all
those graphics teachers who swear still that their expensive g4 mac paid by the
government sometimes even at the time, is worlds greatest because apple knows
just like so many other companies how to present a new product. Just keep
drumbeatting until you have used up all words in the dictionary that can be used
to praise it. In the community where Apple sells its stuff that is working very
well. Usually those 'artists' and 'graphics designers' and 'homepage artists'
are themselves already very good in presenting themselves. So they expect Apple
to do that too. And they do of course.

Then the new generation will be growing up with apple g5s again in the schools
and they will sooner or later buy one themselves too.

That's how it goes and not differently.

Without the teachers who just know how to use OS/9 and a very few who have
learned OS/X, it is trivially that apple would already be bankrupt.

>I don't think many are so interested about computer chess that they will switch
>platform for just because the G5 is great at that. Those with money and interest
>will probably go for the Opteron or Athlon64 or whatever.
>
>The bottom line is that very few interested in the G5 at all. The Opteron has
>been heavily discussed here because many consider that as a possible next
>system.
>
>/Regards Albert



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