Author: Mike Hood
Date: 09:31:57 07/09/03
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On July 09, 2003 at 01:00:26, Dann Corbit wrote: >On July 08, 2003 at 22:20:05, DANIEL JOHNSON wrote: > >>Hi, I thought everone would like to know shredder 7.04 first program to break >>2800. Shredder has a rating of 2810 and fritz 8 distant 3rd place at 2762. >>Can't wait till the world computer chess championship this Nov.? perhaps >>shredder 8 not to far down the road. > >Stefan Meyer-Kahlen is to be largely congratulated for an excellent showing in >the SSDF. Now he not only pounds the stuffings out of folks at the world >championships, but also on the SSDF list. > >The number 2800 is pretty much arbitrary. We can add 500 and Shredder has >broken the 3300 mark. As long as we add 500 to all the other programs, the >result will remain consistent. > >This highly respected list: >http://www.chessmetrics.com/FE/Graphs150.htm >has Capablanca and Fischer at around 3000 ELO. Of course, it's just a number. >The real meanings of chess ratings are not so much in the absolute values but in >the absolute differences as used to predict a broad scope of outcomes between >some given player and a collection of opponents in the list. It's always difficult to prove or disprove comparisons made between different players at different periods in time. Any Elo list (or graph) should show the current strengths of players, because everybody has ups and downs in their careers. I'm 100% certain that when Fischer was at his peak, 30 years ago, he played stronger than Kasparov did at the time. I'm also 100% certain that on today's date, July 9th 2003, Kasparov playes better than Bobby Fischer. But if I made a claim about whether Kasparov at his peak could win a tournament against Fischer at his peak -- and I admit that I do have an opinion on the subject -- it would be a controversial claim that would only lead to a flaming war in this forum.
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