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Subject: Re: Junior 5 Vs Fritz 5 Blitz Match.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 23:28:44 10/25/98

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On October 26, 1998 at 00:38:13, blass uri wrote:

>
>On October 25, 1998 at 15:01:37, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On October 25, 1998 at 14:35:33, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>Time control was 5'+ 5".
>>>
>>>>I had to use the same opening book for both Junior 5,& Fritz 5 in the blitz
>>>>match. The huge opening book for Fritz 5 alone was killing Junior 5 and its
>>>>smaller book at speed chess.
>>>
>>>What is the result if you use the huge opening book for fritz5 against Junior5's
>>>smaller opening book?
>>
>>I don't remember the score, but if you look at the elo ratings on the Games I
>>posted on Fritz 5 vs Junior 5 at 30 sec a move. The ratings difference is huge:)
>>I played a blitz match first(so that elo is shown on the 30 sec. move games i
>>posted) but did not post the games because it would not have been fair to Junior
>>5 or to Mr. Ban to do so, when I knew what the problem was. And people on CCC
>>may not have known that Huge books can cause this when playing other programs
>>and smaller books at blitz speeds.
>
>I think that it is fair that every program uses its book.
>The only unfair thing can be if the book that you use for fritz5 is based on
>learning of many games that you played before and the book of Junior5 is not
>based on learning games.
>
>In this case  it is also not fair to use Fritz5's book for both sides because
>this book is optimized for fritz5.
>
>I do not like the fact that the programs do not use time for calculations when
>they are in book(Crafty does not do it).
>
>I believe it must be counterproductive at longer time control.
>I believe that at long time control the big book of fritz5 in the way fritz5
>uses it will be counterproductive.

You are wrong here, unlike some people, I have no axe to grind for or against
any program. I am not friends or enemies with any company or programmers. I do
not belong to one program’s camp or another.
I test programs myself, because I found out long ago that too many test results
had a spin to them…
I could not trust them, so I test the programs myself, for myself. No one else!

So fritz 5’s power book will work fine in my testing, and will not be a
disadvantage as in some other people’s tests. I know this because of experience
testing Fritz 5 in a fair way, as I do with all the programs I test.




>
>Uri



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