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Subject: Re: Info on 4 times that # of positions ??

Author: Victor Zakharov

Date: 12:48:46 07/11/03

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Hi Les,

On July 10, 2003 at 17:18:16, Les Fernandez wrote:

>On July 10, 2003 at 06:58:43, Victor Zakharov wrote:
>
>>>Some time ago I remember reading that someone was able to take CAP data that has
>>>been collected and analyzed and wrote a program that generated 4 times the
>>>number of positions in the entire collection that were all unique positions!
>>>does anyone remember this and what has been done with it or is it still being
>>>worked on?  I dont remember any of the details but remember it sounded very
>>>interesting.
>>
>>Sorry, I don't understand what youn mean.
>>Current CAP as a rule contains all positions that were at least in two games.
>
>Hi Victor,
>
>What I think he was referring to was some time ago I wrote an app that took the
>analyzed EPD's on Dann's site (at that time there was about 6,000,000 positions)
>and generated an additional 18,000,000 positions in about 30 minutes bringing
>the total up to 24,000,000.  These extra positions were as sound and accurate as
>the original positions.  What was nice about this is that it required no
>analysis engine and was done strictly based on symetries and current analyzed
>positions.  In fact I have also thought of other ways of accomplishing a further
>increase for the number of positions but have not had time to continue it.  I
>think at one point they were posted on Dann's site but I have been so busy I
>have been out of the loop for a while but hope to continue these studies in
>chess that I had started a while ago.  I miss this stuff and hope to be jumping
>on board again shortly.  Hey Dann if you are reading "HELLO"
>
>Les

Thanks, I understood. Surely it can be usefull for some purposes. But for me the
main problem of CAP is not the number of positions. Making evaluations more
reliable is the trouble.

Victor



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