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Subject: Re: time for another ssdf rating adjustment.

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 16:43:55 07/13/03

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On July 13, 2003 at 18:36:46, Maurizio De Leo wrote:

>>>ok maybe just -100 for all.
>>
>>That was done one time already, and cheapened ssdf in my eyes, because the more
>>truthful way would have been to have reduced every rating with seperate
>>calculation for each program, by a certain (same for each) percentage.
>>
>>That would have been much more honest as well as accurate, and it's surprising
>>that chess players aren't intelligent enough to see this!
>>S.Taylor
>
>Maybe you should reconsider calling stupid the chess players and think about
>what you said.
>
>Elo rating are calculated so that what matter is the DIFFERENCE between them.
>The difference between two ratings is related to the probability of the outcome
>of the match between two players.
>
>You seem to think that the ABSOLUTE VALUE of elo is a misure of "strenght" of
>the player.
>In fact it is not so :
>
>1) a 2000 elo player isn't 2 times stronger than a 1000 player
>2) a 3000 elo player isn't 1.5 times stronger than a 2000 player.
>
>Actually what elo points mean is that in both case 1 e 2 the player rated higher
>will have a winning expectancy of 99.x (I don't know the exact number).
>
>
>Bottom line :
>
>The correct way of reducing the rating in an elo list is EXACTLY to reduce all
>the elo by a fixed amount and NOT to scale all the rating with a certain
>percentage.
>
>If in case 1 the two player become 1900 and 900 the winning expectancy between
>them remains the same. If they become 1900 and 950 as you proposed this is not
>longer true.
>
>
>Thanks to whom read until here :-)
>
>Maurizio

I might agree that I can reconsider thinking them as stupid, but you are atleast
getting a bit deeper into the deep mathematics. I don't know if THEY did. Did
they?
S.Taylor



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