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Subject: Re: Fantastic interview! So he says that Junior 8, is beginning of new era!

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 05:14:53 07/14/03

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On July 13, 2003 at 19:35:15, stuart taylor wrote:

>I find this interview fascinating to say the least!
>He also seems to be saying that Junior 8 (or "deep Junior", but the actual
>junior/deep junior on the market now is known to be even better, in quality!) is
>the first computer to understand quality moves VS. material.
>Does this mean that Junior 8 will be immortalized as the first of the real big
>super GM programs?
>S.Taylor
>
>

this is all nonsense. Kaspy said after his Deep-Blue II - debacle, that now the
time has come were computers play better than humans but changed his mind after
properly analyzing the games. Now after the Junior-Match he also predicted a new
era bla, bla, bla.

I think this is mostly to mystify his matches against the machines into
something special.

Juniors understanding of dynamic advantages and his willingness to give material
for initiative is outstanding but there are other programs which play good
positional moves too instead of grabbing material. In some position Junior shows
a quite poor evaluation and does not find decent moves at all. So the statement
that Junior plays "quality moves" and other programs don't is not true. For
example the understanding of Hiarcs 8 of the pawn structure is outstanding
compared to most other engines. Junior 8 treats his pawn structure rather badly.

All programs have their streght's and weaknesses but are all (yet) more or less
stupid bur fast searchers.

regards Joachim



>On July 13, 2003 at 07:57:08, Eran wrote:
>
>>Click below.
>>
>>http://www.newscientist.com/opinion/opinterview.jsp;jsessionid=JLAMCLAFNHDB?id=ns24031
>>
>>Eran



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