Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:41:23 07/14/03
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On July 14, 2003 at 08:14:53, Joachim Rang wrote: >On July 13, 2003 at 19:35:15, stuart taylor wrote: > >>I find this interview fascinating to say the least! >>He also seems to be saying that Junior 8 (or "deep Junior", but the actual >>junior/deep junior on the market now is known to be even better, in quality!) is >>the first computer to understand quality moves VS. material. >>Does this mean that Junior 8 will be immortalized as the first of the real big >>super GM programs? >>S.Taylor >> >> > >this is all nonsense. Kaspy said after his Deep-Blue II - debacle, that now the >time has come were computers play better than humans but changed his mind after >properly analyzing the games. Now after the Junior-Match he also predicted a new >era bla, bla, bla. > >I think this is mostly to mystify his matches against the machines into >something special. > >Juniors understanding of dynamic advantages and his willingness to give material >for initiative is outstanding but there are other programs which play good >positional moves too instead of grabbing material. In some position Junior shows >a quite poor evaluation and does not find decent moves at all. So the statement >that Junior plays "quality moves" and other programs don't is not true. For >example the understanding of Hiarcs 8 of the pawn structure is outstanding >compared to most other engines. Junior 8 treats his pawn structure rather badly. I do not have Hiarcs8 but based on 2 games that I watched Hiarcs8 had problems of evaluating passed pawns. http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?305220 Hiarcs8 underevaluate a passed pawn of Junior8 and lost the game. In another game of Hiarcs against GM smirin(in the match that smirin won the machines 5-3) I was also not impressed by Hiarcs pawn structure understanding and Hiarcs overevaluated it's passed pawn that was trapped by smirin. I think that passed pawns is part of evaluation of pawn structure and I do not know what do you mean when you claim that the understanding of Hiarcs8 of the pawn structure is outstanding. Uri
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