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Subject: Re: Shredder 7 finds Deep Blue move in 404 hours at depth 28/66

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:29:05 07/14/03

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On July 14, 2003 at 10:15:36, Ryan B. wrote:

>How can you not call a program that beat GK amazing?  I don't believe we really
>have proof that programs today are better than Deep Blue.  I would like to
>believe that the newer programs are better but there simply is no proof.  What
>we do know is that Deep Blue beat an amazing chess player.  I would call that
>amazing...

Just analyze the games. also watch the comments of kasparov. he just didn't care
shit. he lost in 89 also from Genius.

You find genius from 1989 very strong?

GMs do not get paid to beat programs, for commercial interests of those that pay
the matches. This despite what gets published. usually they get paid the total
amount of money mentionned in advance even.

This is real sad. If i get world champion perhaps a more objective match is
possible.

The only objective games we know of was Rebel versus GMs online. Rebel did very
poor in those matches. The GMs got money only if they drew or won.

So most quickly and politely safely drew quickly.

A few victories against Rebel too.

Those games were from Rebels side more impressive than the whole GK match
against deep blue.

Those games were a joke. I play blindfolded stronger than that.

I'm Fidemaster in chess. my rating 2310. yes i can play a game without giving
away material. So for me the computer isn't a holy thing as it is towards
amateurs that always lose because of major blunders.

Best regards,
Vincent



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