Author: Art Basham
Date: 10:25:10 07/14/03
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Not too surprised at this... My old Super Novag VIP at just 30 sec a move plays many of the same moves once played by Deep Blue...! Art ++++++++++++++ On July 14, 2003 at 11:15:54, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: >On July 14, 2003 at 06:31:11, K. Burcham wrote: > >> >>someone here posted that their program says that 39...h4 is better than Deep >>Blue move of 39...Kh6. We all know black is lost here, but if you let your >>program think long enough and deep enough you might find that your program will >>also play the Deep Blue move of 39...Kh6, Shredder 7 does but takes over 16 >>days. Deep Blue was amazing. >> >>Shredder 7 >>1875 mhz Amd XP >>192 hash >> >>Deep Blue Game 1 >>39...Kh6 >>404 Hours >>405 kns >>590.259.424.036 nodes >>Depth 28/66 >> >> >> [D] 3rr3/6k1/2p3P1/1p2nP1p/pP2p1P1/P1B1Nb1B/2P2K2/5R2 b - - >> >> 12/26 0:01 -1.70++ 39...h4 (818.861) 494.1 >> 12/26 0:01 -1.70 39...h4 (818.862) 494.1 >> 13/13 0:01 -1.70 39...h4 (824.434) 493.0 >> 14/14 0:02 -1.70 39...h4 (1.131.517) 495.8 >> 15/15 0:03 -1.70 39...h4 (1.689.602) 505.2 >> 16/16 0:04 -1.70 39...h4 (2.476.787) 519.6 >> 17/17 0:09 -1.70 39...h4 (4.588.882) 509.8 >> 18/18 0:22 -1.70 39...h4 (10.785.598) 482.7 >> 19/38 3:06 -1.95-- 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 Bf3 >>44.Bxf3 h3 45.Bxe4 Kg8 46.f6 Rd5 47.Kf3 Rf5+ 48.Bxf5 Re3+ 49.Kxe3 (79.934.819) >>428.5 >> 19/43 4:47 -1.95 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 >>44.Bxe4 Rd1 45.g7+ Kg8 46.Rf2 Rg1 47.f6 Rg3+ 48.Kd4 Rd8+ 49.Bd5+ cxd5 >>(126.000.396) 438.6 >> 20/45 17:04 -1.70++ 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 >>44.Bxe4 h2 45.Bb2 Rxe4+ 46.Kxe4 Rd1 47.Rxd1 Bxd1 48.g7+ Kg8 49.Ke5 (430.752.923) >>420.5 >> 20/46 24:16 -1.38 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Kg1 e3 44.Rf4 >>h3 45.Bxc6 Rd1+ 46.Kh2 Rc8 47.f6 Bh5 (610.105.856) 418.9 >> 21/44 34:05 -1.63-- 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.g7+ Kf7 >>44.Ke3 h3 45.g6+ Ke7 46.Bxe4 Rf8 47.gxf8Q+ Kd7 48.f6 (848.952.120) 414.9 >> 21/47 45:10 -2.12 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 44.Rf4 >>hxg2 45.Rxg4 Rd1 46.Rxg2 Rh1 47.Bd4 Rh3+ 48.Kd2 (1.119.858.859) 413.1 >> 22/47 90:26 -2.37-- 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 >>44.Rf4 hxg2 45.Rxg4 Rd1 46.Rxg2 Rh1 47.Bd4 Rh3+ 48.Ke2 Rd8 (2.198.716.480) 405.1 >> 22/51 100:16 -2.37 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 >>44.Rf4 hxg2 45.Rxg4 Rd1 46.Rxg2 Rh1 47.Bd4 Rh3+ 48.Ke2 Rd8 49.g7+ Kg8 >>(2.444.847.669) 406.3 >> 23/56 193:06 -2.62-- 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 >>44.Rf4 hxg2 45.Rxg4 Rd1 46.Rxg2 Rh1 47.Rg3 Rh2 48.f6 Rxc2 49.Bd4 (4.631.009.303) >>399.6 >> 23/56 223:39 -3.12-- 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Ng4+ 42.Nxg4 Bxg4 43.Ke3 h3 >>44.Rf4 hxg2 45.Rxg4 Rd1 46.Rxg2 Rh1 47.Rg3 Rh2 48.f6 Rxc2 49.Bd4 (5.331.426.365) >>397.2 >> 23/57 308:27 -3.70 39...h4 40.g5 Kg8 41.Bg2 Bxg2 42.Kxg2 Rd7 43.Bxe5 Rxe5 >>44.Ng4 Rdd5 45.Kh3 Kf8 46.Nxe5 Rxe5 47.Kxh4 e3 (7.336.583.990) 396.4 >> 23/57 624:32 -3.69++ 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Bg4 Bxg6 42.fxg6 Kxg6 43.Bf5+ >>Kf7 44.Bxe5 Rxe5 45.Ng4 Rxf5+ 46.Ke3 Rxf1 47.Nh6+ Rxh6 48.Kxe4 (14.957.435.678) >>399.1 >> 23/57 679:05 -3.34++ 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Bg4 Bxg6 42.fxg6 Kxg6 43.Bf5+ >>Kf7 44.Bxe5 Rxe5 45.Ng4 Rxf5+ 46.Ke3 Rxf1 47.Nh6+ Rxh6 48.Kxe4 c5 >>(16.322.469.787) 400.6 >> 23/57 709:16 -3.34 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Bg4 Bxg6 42.fxg6 Kxg6 43.Bf5+ Kf7 >>44.Rh1 Ng6 45.Rh7+ Kf8 46.Rh6 Kf7 47.Ng4 Red8 48.Rh7+ (17.068.296.033) 401.0 >> 24/55 911:50 -3.59-- 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Rf6 42.Bg4 Bxg4 43.Rxg4 Re7 >>44.Rxe4 c5 45.Bxe5 cxb4 46.Bxf6+ Kxf6 47.Rxb4 (21.921.021.204) 400.6 >> 24/59 1015:50 -3.73 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Kg8 42.Bg4 Nxg4+ 43.Rxg4 Rf8 >>44.Ke1 Rxg6 45.fxg6 Rf3 46.Rxe4 Bxg6 47.Re7 Bxc2 48.Bd4 Bb3 (24.469.191.763) >>401.4 >> 24/59 1041:10 -3.72++ 39...h4 40.g5 (25.131.053.796) 402.2 >> 24/59 1159:06 -3.69 39...h4 40.g5 Kg8 41.Bg2 Bxg2 42.Kxg2 Rd7 43.Kh3 Nc4 >>44.Nxc4 bxc4 45.f6 Red8 46.Kxh4 Kf8 47.f7 Rxf7 48.gxf7 c5 (27.910.013.046) 401.3 >> 25/59 1823:39 -3.80 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Bh5 42.Rh1 Bxg6 43.fxg6 Nxg6 >>44.Rf1 Rd7 45.Ke2+ Rf7 46.Bf6 (43.528.246.828) 397.8 >> 26/61 3448:38 -4.03 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 c5 42.Bxf3 Nxf3 43.f6 Ne5 44.g7+ >>Kg8 45.bxc5 Rd7 46.Ke2 Rdd8 47.g6 (81.900.684.843) 395.8 >> 26/61 3932:56 -4.02++ 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Kg8 42.Bg4 Nxg4+ 43.Rxg4 >>Rf8 44.Ke1 Rxg6 45.fxg6 Rf3 46.Rxe4 Bxg6 47.Re7 Bxc2 48.Bd4 Kf8 (93.903.358.486) >>397.9 >> 26/61 4149:36 -4.02 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Kg8 42.Bg4 Nxg4+ 43.Rxg4 Rf8 >>44.Rg5 Bd1 45.Nxd1 Rxd1 46.Rh5 Rxf5+ 47.Rxf5 Rc1 48.Kg3 (99.038.996.563) 397.7 >> 27/57 6460:16 -4.27-- 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Kg8 42.Bg4 Nxg4+ 43.Rxg4 >>Rf8 44.Rg5 Bd1 45.Nxd1 Rxd1 46.Rh5 Rxf5+ 47.Rxf5 Rc1 48.Kg3 (153.620.222.788) >>396.3 >> 27/65 7524:12 -4.31 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Kg8 42.Bg4 Nxg4+ 43.Rxg4 >>Bxg4 44.Nxg4 e3+ 45.Ke1 e2 46.Nh6+ Kf8 47.f6 Rd1+ 48.Kf2 Rf1+ 49.Kg2 Re5 >>(179.888.832.802) 398.4 >> 27/65 7769:35 -4.30++ 39...h4 40.g5 (186.236.263.558) 399.4 >> 27/65 8795:27 -3.97 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Bh5 42.Rh1 Bxg6 43.Rxh4 Bf7 >>44.Bxe4 Bg8 45.f6 Kf7 46.Nf5 Kg6 47.Ng7+ Kxg5 48.Kg3 (210.817.600.678) 399.4 >> 28/60 12777:32 -4.22-- 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Bh5 42.Rh1 Bxg6 43.Rxh4 Bf7 >>44.Bxe4 Bg8 45.f6 Kf7 46.Nf5 Kg6 47.Ng7+ Kxg5 48.Kg3 (305.337.441.606) 398.2 >> 28/65 14804:01 -4.56 39...h4 40.g5 Kf8 41.Bg2 Bxg2 42.Kxg2 c5 43.bxc5 Rc8 >>44.Rh1 Rxc5 45.Bb4 Rec8 46.Rxh4 Nxg6 (353.699.752.168) 398.2 >> 28/65 16295:25 -4.55++ 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 (391.581.817.611) 400.5 >> 28/66 19457:45 -4.40 39...Rd6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rg1 Kf8 42.Rg5 Bxg6 43.fxg6 >>Nxg6 44.Nf5 e3+ 45.Ke1 Ne5 46.Nxd6 Nf3+ 47.Ke2 (470.342.435.265) 402.8 >> 28/66 24265:29 -4.39++ 39...Kh6 40.gxh5 Bxh5 41.Rh1 Nxg6 42.fxg6 Kxg6 43.Rg1+ >>Kf7 44.Rg7+ Kf8 45.Rg5 Bf7 46.Bg7+ Ke7 47.Nf5+ Kd7 48.Bf6 e3+ 49.Nxe3+ Be6 >>50.Bxe6+ Kxe6 (590.259.424.036) 405.4 >>best move: Kg7-h6 time: 24511:18.922 min n/s: 405.604 CPU 99.6% nodes: >>596.513.874.980 TB: 5.904 >> >> >>[Event "IBM Kasparov vs. Deep Blue Rematch"] >>[Site "New York, NY USA"] >>[Date "1997.05.03"] >>[Round "1"] >>[White "Kasparov, Garry"] >>[Black "Deep Blue"] >>[Opening "Reti: King's Indian attack, Keres variation"] >>[ECO "A07"] >>[Result "1-0"] >> >>1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 Bg4 3.b3 Nd7 4.Bb2 e6 5.Bg2 Ngf6 6.O-O c6 7.d3 Bd6 >>8.Nbd2 O-O 9.h3 Bh5 10.e3 h6 11.Qe1 Qa5 12.a3 Bc7 13.Nh4 g5 >>14.Nhf3 e5 15.e4 Rfe8 16.Nh2 Qb6 17.Qc1 a5 18.Re1 Bd6 19.Ndf1 dxe4 >>20.dxe4 Bc5 21.Ne3 Rad8 22.Nhf1 g4 23.hxg4 Nxg4 24.f3 Nxe3 >>25.Nxe3 Be7 26.Kh1 Bg5 27.Re2 a4 28.b4 f5 29.exf5 e4 30.f4 Bxe2 >>31.fxg5 Ne5 32.g6 Bf3 33.Bc3 Qb5 34.Qf1 Qxf1+ 35.Rxf1 h5 36.Kg1 Kf8 >>37.Bh3 b5 38.Kf2 Kg7 39.g4 Kh6 40.Rg1 hxg4 41.Bxg4 Bxg4 >>42.Nxg4+ Nxg4+ 43.Rxg4 Rd5 44.f6 Rd1 45.g7 1-0 >> >>kburcham >Does this mean that the radio shack plays or sees more and better than Programs >at gig machines? of course not.I am the guy who found out that 39...h4 is >played by the commercials it is the better move.39....Kh6 just loses more >quickly.(Although 39...h4 also loses)
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