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Subject: Rebel 12...curiosity....

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 22:01:07 07/14/03


In the following position, black is lost.  No if/and or but's about it.

[D]N3b3/1B5p/2p3p1/2kp1p2/5P2/5PP1/7P/6K1 b - - 0 1

However, Rebel 12.0 (beta 1) doesn't even really seem worried.

00:00:00.2	-0.06	1	10	d4
00:00:00.2	-0.76	2	74	d4 Ba6 Bf7
00:00:00.2	-0.55	2	112	Kd4 Nb6
00:00:00.2	-0.53	2	147	Bf7 Kf2
00:00:00.2	-0.52	2	241	Kd6 Kf2 Bf7
00:00:00.2	-0.36	3	445	Kd6 Ba6 c5 Bd3 Ba4
00:00:00.2	-0.25	4	982	Kd6 Ba6 c5 Nb6 Bc6 Bb5
00:00:00.2	-0.52	5	2069	Kd6 Kf2 Bf7 Ke2 c5 Kd2 h6
00:00:00.2	-0.38	6	8001	Kd6 Kf2 h5 Ke3 c5 Kd2 Bb5 h4
00:00:00.3	-0.63	7	10885	Kd6 Kf2 Bf7 Ke2 c5 Kd3 Be8 Bxd5
00:00:00.3	-0.69	8	29945	Kd6 Kf2 Bd7 Nb6 Be6 Ba6 c5 Bd3
00:00:00.3	-0.66	8	54980	Kc4 Nb6+ Kc3 Nxd5+ cxd5 Bxd5 Kd4 Bb3
00:00:00.3	-0.59	8	66245	d4 Kf2 Kc4 Nc7 Bd7 Ke2 c5 Ba6+
00:00:00.3	-0.69	9	90511	d4 Kf2 Kc4 Nc7 Bd7 Ke2 c5 Ba6+
00:00:00.5	-0.52	10	253520	d4 Kf2 Bf7 h3 Kb5 Ke2 c5 Kd3
00:00:00.8	-0.50	11	628417	d4 Kf2 Bf7 g4 Be6 g5 Bc4
00:00:01.6	-0.62	12	1597236	d4 Kf2 Bf7 Ke2 Bc4+ Kd2 Bd5 Nc7
00:00:03.9	-0.53	13	4356862	d4 Kf2 Bf7 g4 fxg4 fxg4 Be6 g5
00:00:11.2	-0.44	14	13130244	d4 Kf2 Bf7 Ke2 Bc4+ Kd2 Kd6 g4
00:00:25.2	-0.55	15	29885869	d4 Kf2 Bf7 Ke2 Bc4+ Kd2 Kd6 g4
00:01:09.3	-0.55	16	84276063	d4 Kf2 Bf7 Ke2 Bc4+ Kd2 Kd6 g4
00:04:06.1	-0.53	17	295600494	d4 Kf2 Kb4 Nc7 Bd7 Na6+ Kb5

Now, I am not saying anything bad about Rebel 12.0, even in pre-release it's a
great engine.  But why so optimistic?  This game is over, and it seems to think
it's only down 1/2 a pawn...

Just curious....



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