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Subject: Re: Man vs Machine (120'/40) Utzinger-Junior8 (01) Draw (with diagram)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:32:14 07/19/03

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On July 19, 2003 at 04:25:46, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On July 19, 2003 at 04:18:39, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On July 19, 2003 at 04:14:27, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On July 19, 2003 at 04:03:12, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 19, 2003 at 03:38:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 19, 2003 at 03:36:24, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>At the moment I am a bit chess-tired and there decided to again start fighting
>>>>>myself (1978 Elo) matches vs the strongest programs. Below the first commented
>>>>>game. Where are the grandmaster moves? I could see none.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How did you play the game? At the computer or with a real board? Did you see and
>>>>follow the program's thinking on the screen?
>>>
>>>    Hi Harald
>>>    I played the game with a real board. And of course did I not see
>>>    the program's thinking on the screen. Otherwise it would be not
>>>    fair and furthermore: this would not be a real training for me.
>>>    Kurt
>>
>>
>>OK, fine then and: chapeau!
>>One final question: Did you play through some of your ideas on the board while
>>Junior 8 was thinking? I wouldn't expect so but would be possible as well.
>
>     Hi Harald
>     For me it was a real tournament game. And therefore I did not allow
>     myself to play through some of my ideas on the board. And by the way,
>     I would dare say that no computer programm will be able to beat me at
>     tournament level if I could see the thinking process of the engine.
>     Kurt

You cannot be sure about the last point.

It is possible that the program did not see some tactics when it played or
pondered but after you play it can search deeper so it can see the tactics.

Uri



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