Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 02:15:53 07/19/03
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On July 19, 2003 at 04:21:39, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>On July 18, 2003 at 13:19:47, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>English
>>If we compare the following, nobody would believe that the same engines had
>>played the same tournament with only a small difference: the books
>>
>>Français
>>Si on compare les résultats suivants, on ne peut guère croire que les memes
>>modules ont joués le meme tournoi avec une petite différence: les livrets
>>d'ouvertures:
>>
>>Deutsch
>>Betrachtet man den nachstehenden Vergleich, ist kaum zu glauben, dass dieselben
>>Programme dasselbe Turnier gespielt haben mit einem kleinen Unterschied:
>>verschiedene Bücher:
>>
>>RK 2003 tournament 120'/60+60'/30+30'
>>Results with draw book remis.ctg for all engines
>>after 84 games [each engine 21 games]
>>
>> Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + -
>>
>> 1 TK 3.23 SKR : 15.5/ 21 73.8 2476 2656 129 141
>> 2 Fritz 8 : 11.5/ 21 54.8 2495 2528 158 118
>> 3 Shredder 7.04 : 11.0/ 21 52.4 2497 2513 162 109
>> 4 Hiarcs 8 : 11.0/ 21 52.4 2497 2513 162 96
>> 5 Chess Tiger 15 : 10.5/ 21 50.0 2499 2499 122 122
>> 6 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 9.0/ 21 42.9 2505 2455 97 153
>> 7 Deep Sjeng 1.5 : 8.0/ 21 38.1 2509 2425 100 145
>> 8 Junior 8 : 7.5/ 21 35.7 2512 2410 148 142
>>
>>
>>RK 2003 tournament 120'/60+60'/30+30'
>>Results with own books for all engines
>>after 84 games [each engine 21 games]
>>
>>
>> Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + -
>>Draws
>>
>> 1 Shredder 7.04 : 13.0/ 21 61.9 2490 2574 145 100
>> 2 Junior 8 : 13.0/ 21 61.9 2490 2574 145 117
>> 3 Fritz 8 : 11.0/ 21 52.4 2498 2515 162 109
>> 4 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 11.0/ 21 52.4 2498 2515 162 96
>> 5 Deep Sjeng 1.5 : 10.5/ 21 50.0 2500 2500 133 133
>> 6 Hiarcs 8 : 9.5/ 21 45.2 2504 2471 89 158
>> 7 The King 3.23 skr : 8.5/ 21 40.5 2508 2441 107 149
>> 8 Chess Tiger 15.0 : 7.5/ 21 35.7 2513 2411 91 142
>>
>>Further details at:
>>Détails additionnels chez:
>>Weitere Details unter:
>>
>>http://www.utzingerkurt.com (section RK 2003)
>
>I believe the book IS responsible for the different results of The King and
>Junior 8 (scored 4/4 with 1.e4).
>Chesstiger probably has just bad luck in your second tournament so far.
>The King was almost always out of book some moves before its opponent got out of
>book.
>This is very important.
>
>Deep Sjeng 1.5 - The King 3.23 skr [B09]
>RK 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60 Zurich (1.3), 04.07.2003
>
>1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.f4 Bg7 5.Nf3 0-0 6.Bd3 Na6 7.0-0 c5 8.d5 Bg4 Black
>last book move 9.Bc4 Nc7 10.h3 White last book move 10...Bc8 11.Re1 a6 12.a4 e6
>13.a5 exd5 14.exd5 Re8 15.Bd2 Rxe1+ 16.Qxe1 Nb5 17.Na4 Bf5 18.Nb6 Rb8 19.c3 Qc7
>20.Qf1 Na7 21.g4 Be4 22.Re1 Re8 23.Re3 Qd8 24.g5 Nh5 25.Qe1 f5 26.gxf6 Nxf6
>27.Ng5 Bf5 28.Ne6 Qb8 29.b4 cxb4 30.cxb4 Nh5 31.Be2 Bxe6 32.dxe6 Nxf4 33.Bc4 Nc6
>34.Re4 Nh5 35.e7+ Kh8 36.Bf7 Nf6 37.Bxe8 Qxe8 38.Re3 Ne5 39.Bc3 Qxe7 40.Nc8 Qe6
>41.Nxd6 Qxd6 42.Bxe5 Qd7 43.Rf3 Qe7 44.Qc3 Ne8 45.Bxg7+ Nxg7 46.Qe5 Qd8 47.Qf6
>Qxf6 48.Rxf6 Nf5 49.b5 1-0
>
>[D] r2q1rk1/ppn1ppbp/3p1np1/2pP4/2B1PPb1/2N2N1P/PPP3P1/R1BQ1RK1 b - - 0 10
>
>Black was probably lost after the first own move 10...Bc8??.
>Btw Fritz 8 and Chesstiger 15 (in CA) would also play this move.
>10...Bxf3 is correct of course.
>
>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>
>10...Bxf3 11.Qxf3 e6 12.dxe6 fxe6 13.Be3 Qe7 14.Rad1 h6
> ± (0.72) Depth: 7/28 00:00:00 124kN
>10...Bc8!
> ² (0.69) Depth: 7/28 00:00:00 137kN
>10...Bc8!
> ² (0.53) Depth: 7/28 00:00:00 163kN
>10...Bc8 11.Qe2 b5 12.Bxb5
> ² (0.50) Depth: 7/28 00:00:00 241kN
>10...Bc8 11.a4 e6 12.Qd3 exd5 13.Nxd5 Nfxd5 14.Bxd5 Nxd5 15.Qxd5 Qe7 16.a5
> ² (0.56) Depth: 8/28 00:00:00 387kN
>10...Bc8 11.Qd3 Nd7 12.Qe3 Nb6 13.Bd3 h6 14.a3 e6 15.dxe6
> ² (0.44) Depth: 9/32 00:00:02 1200kN
>10...Bc8 11.Qd3 Nd7 12.Be3 Nb6 13.Bb3 h6 14.f5 gxf5 15.exf5 Bd7
> ² (0.47) Depth: 10/33 00:00:04 2372kN
>10...Bc8 11.Qd3 Nd7 12.Be3 Nb6 13.Bb3 h6 14.Rae1 Qd7 15.a3 Re8
> ² (0.47) Depth: 11/33 00:00:08 5223kN
>10...Bc8 11.Qd3 Nd7 12.Be3 Nb6 13.Bb3 h6 14.Rae1 Ne8 15.e5 Bf5 16.Ne4
> ² (0.50) Depth: 12/39 00:00:23 14773kN
>10...Bc8 11.a4 e6 12.dxe6 Bxe6 13.Bxe6 fxe6 14.e5 dxe5 15.fxe5 Qxd1 16.Rxd1 Nfd5
>17.Ne4 Nb4 18.c4 Nc2
> ² (0.50) Depth: 13/38 00:00:58 38223kN
>10...Bc8 11.a4 a6 12.Qd3 b6 13.Be3 h6 14.Bd2 Re8 15.Ne2 Nd7 16.Bc3 Bxc3
> ² (0.50) Depth: 14/40 00:02:42 111081kN
>
>Michael
Hi Michael
The move 10...Bc8 was indeed a bad one. But The King and other programs
chosing this move too may overestimate the strenght of the bishop pair.
Kurt
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