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Subject: Re: Man vs Machine (120'/40) Utzinger-Shredder704 (01) 1-0

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 12:59:22 07/20/03

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On July 20, 2003 at 14:01:11, Uri Blass wrote:

>>On July 20, 2003 at 13:01:06, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>English
>>>I am a lucky man: In the first game vs Shredder 7.04 I could even win. My
>>>results so far:
>>>
>>>- vs Junior8 (1/2, 1/2, 0)
>>>- vs ChessTiger (1/2)
>>>- vs Shredder 7.04 (1)
>>>
>>>Total 5 games and 2,5 points = 50 %. Where are the 2800 Elo of the giants?
>
>Kurt never played against kasparov or kramnik and we have no proof that he
>cannot get 2.5/5 against them in the right conditions.
>Right conditions include the assumption that kasparov and kramnik do not know
>who is the opponent and may believe that they play against a super GM.
>
YES.I absolutely agree . And furthermore i have an opinion that i don't know
if it's true: Even if Shredder 7.04 for example, wins Kurt by 2.5-1.5 or
draw him 2-2, this doesn't mean that it can't win Kasparov.
And to generalize it: if an engine with an A ELO draws or wins with a small
score a person with a B ELO (A>>B) then it is possible the engine to win or draw
a person with a C ELO where C~A.
This is because of the weakness of the engines in closed positions where
many pawns exist.
And of course we don't know if Kurt wouldn't take 2-3 draws against Kasparov
with the right conditions.



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