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Subject: Re: interesting position

Author: Steven J. Brann

Date: 21:15:47 07/20/03

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On July 21, 2003 at 00:02:01, Mike Byrne wrote:

>http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/51373.htm
>
>"Deep Sjeng claims to be the only program which finds Nxc3+ immediately.
>
>Can you disprove the claim?"
>
>
>GM Alterman,Boris - Deep Sjeng
>WCCC Ehibition Maastricht, 09.07.2002
>
>[d]2rq1rk1/pb1pn1pp/1p2p3/2pn1p2/3P2P1/P1PBPN1P/1P1NQP1R/1K1R4 b - - 0 15 ; bm
>Nxc3 (or so they say)
>
>
>Crafty 19.04 (krafty byrne)
>Black(1): go
>              clearing hash tables
>              time surplus  29.87  time limit 1:00 (1:00)
>              depth   time  score   variation (1)
>                1     0.00   0.36   1. ... cxd4 2. exd4
>                1->   0.02   0.36   1. ... cxd4 2. exd4
>                2     0.02   0.07   1. ... cxd4 2. exd4 Qc7 3. gxf5 exf5
>                2->   0.02   0.07   1. ... cxd4 2. exd4 Qc7 3. gxf5 exf5
>                3     0.04   0.06   1. ... cxd4 2. exd4 Nf4 3. Qe3 Nxd3
>                                    4. Qxd3
>                3->   0.05   0.06   1. ... cxd4 2. exd4 Nf4 3. Qe3 Nxd3
>                                    4. Qxd3 (s=2)
>                4     0.05   0.14   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Qc7 3. f4 Nc6 4.
>                                    Nxc6 Bxc6 5. gxf5 exf5
>                4->   0.07   0.14   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Qc7 3. f4 Nc6 4.
>                                    Nxc6 Bxc6 5. gxf5 exf5
>                5     0.08   0.14   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Qc7 3. f4 Nc6 4.
>                                    Nxc6 Bxc6 5. gxf5 exf5
>                5->   0.10   0.14   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Qc7 3. f4 Nc6 4.
>                                    Nxc6 Bxc6 5. gxf5 exf5
>                6     0.21  -0.04   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Rxc3 3. gxf5 Rxa3
>                                    4. fxe6 Ra4
>                6->   0.27  -0.04   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Rxc3 3. gxf5 Rxa3
>                                    4. fxe6 Ra4
>                7     0.43  -0.03   1. ... cxd4 2. Nxd4 Rxc3 3. Nc4 Ba6
>                                    4. gxf5 Bxc4 5. Bxc4
>                7     0.52  -0.22   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                7->   0.54  -0.22   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                                    (s=2)
>                8     0.61  -0.22   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                8->   0.90  -0.22   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                                    (s=3)
>                9     1.07  -0.28   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. Nxd4 Nxc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. Nb5 Rc5
>                                    7. gxf5 exf5 8. Nxa7 (s=2)
>                9->   1.57  -0.28   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. Nxd4 Nxc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. Nb5 Rc5
>                                    7. gxf5 exf5 8. Nxa7 (s=3)
>               10     2.10  -0.45   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                                    7. Bc4+ d5 8. Bb3 (s=2)
>               10->   3.00  -0.45   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                                    7. Bc4+ d5 8. Bb3 (s=2)
>               11     4.13  -0.81   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                                    7. Ne5 Rxa3 8. Qh5
>               11->   5.94  -0.81   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. cxd4 Nc3+ 5. Rxc3 Rxc3 6. gxf5 exf5
>                                    7. Ne5 Rxa3 8. Qh5 (s=3)
>               12    10.05  -0.74   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. Nxd4 Qc7 5. Nf1 Nxc3+ 6. Ka1 Be4
>                                    7. f3 Qd6 8. Rxc3 Rxc3 9. fxe4 Qxa3+
>                                    (s=2)
>               12->  14.91  -0.74   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. Nxd4 Qc7 5. Nf1 Nxc3+ 6. Ka1 Be4
>                                    7. f3 Qd6 8. Rxc3 Rxc3 9. fxe4 Qxa3+
>                                    (s=3)
>               13    21.61  -0.74   1. ... Nxc3+ 2. bxc3 Nd5 3. Rc1 cxd4
>                                    4. Nxd4 Qc7 5. Nf1 Nxc3+ 6. Ka1 Be4
>                                    7. Qd2 Qc5 8. Rxc3 Qxc3+ 9. Qxc3 Rxc3
>                                    (s=2)
>?              13    21.61   2/35*  1. ... cxd4
>Black(0): ?
>              time=24.49  cpu=196%  mat=0  n=27007155  fh=92%  nps=1102k
>              ext-> chk=540841 cap=85086 pp=16383 1rep=27544 mate=619
>              predicted=1  nodes=27007155  evals=8313815
>              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
>              SMP->  split=450  stop=59  data=7/32  cpu=48.06  elap=24.49
>
>Black(1): Nxc3+
>              time used:  24.49
>White(2):
>
>
>Deep Sjeng 1.5 no longer gets instantaneously - although 1.0 does on my machine.

Chessmaster 9000 picks up on 15...Nxc3+ in 2 seconds and sticks with it.
(Custom personality and SS=12).

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-0.15	1743		15...Qc7 16.Ne5 cxd4 17.exd4
0:00	1/3	-0.31	2842		15...d6 16.Bb5 Ng6
0:00	1/4	-0.34	5673		15...d6 16.Bb5 cxd4 17.Nxd4 Nc7
0:00	1/4	-0.54	6939		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 d6 17.Bc4 Qc7
0:00	1/5	-0.45	17778		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 d6 17.gxf5 Nxf5
					18.Ne4
0:00	1/6	-0.57	68563		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 d6 17.gxf5 exf5
					18.Bc4 Qd7
0:00	1/7	-0.52	150414		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Qc7 17.Rhh1 d6
					18.Rc1 Qd7 19.Bb5
0:01	1/8	-0.52	325055		15...cxd4 16.cxd4 Qc7 17.Rhh1 d6
					18.Rc1 Qd7 19.Bb5
0:02	1/8	-0.65	412591		15...Nxc3+ 16.bxc3 Nd5 17.Rc1 cxd4
					18.cxd4 Nc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.gxf5
					Rxa3
0:04	1/9	-0.75	841920		15...Nxc3+ 16.bxc3 Nd5 17.Kb2 cxd4
					18.cxd4 Nc3 19.Qf1 Nxd1+ 20.Qxd1
					Qc7 21.Ka1
0:08	1/10	-0.72	1939212		15...Nxc3+ 16.bxc3 Nd5 17.Rc1 cxd4
					18.cxd4 Nc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.Kb2
					Qc7 21.gxf5 Bxf3 22.Nxf3 exf5
0:23	1/11	-0.72	5320280		15...Nxc3+ 16.bxc3 Nd5 17.Rc1 cxd4
					18.cxd4 Nc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.Kb2
					Qc7 21.Ne5 d6 22.Nec4
0:54	1/12	-0.70	12806781	15...Nxc3+ 16.bxc3 Nd5 17.Rc1 cxd4
					18.cxd4 Nc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.Kb2
					Rc8 21.gxf5 Qc7 22.e4 Qc1+ 23.Ka2
					exf5 24.exf5
2:53	1/13	-0.70	42148352	15...Nxc3+ 16.bxc3 Nd5 17.Rc1 cxd4
					18.cxd4 Nc3+ 19.Rxc3 Rxc3 20.Kb2
					Rc8 21.gxf5 Qc7 22.e4 Qc1+ 23.Ka2
					exf5 24.exf5

Steve



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