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Subject: Re: FRITZ 8.00.8 solved it in 6 Seconds even without Tablebase !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 11:24:02 07/21/03

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On July 21, 2003 at 06:33:53, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On July 21, 2003 at 03:10:46, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On July 21, 2003 at 02:54:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 20, 2003 at 14:00:45, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>Fritz 8 cannot win an easily won position, but however the amateur LIST!!
>>>
>>>
>>>I believe that you simply did not give Fritz enough time.
>>>
>>>some analysis by Fritz8.008
>>>
>>>New game
>>>[D]3b4/6k1/P7/6p1/KP6/Q4q2/8/8 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>>
>>>1...Qxa3+!
>>>  -+  (-2.47)   Depth: 13/47   00:12:34  268960kN, tb=990
>>>(Blass, Tel-Aviv 21.07.2003)
>>
>>In this position after 75 moves (!) neither humans nor computer has 12 minutes
>>time.
>>
>>Fritz 8 cannot do it, so simply is that!
>>
>>Eduard
>
>IT'S NOT FRITZ 8 THAT CAN'T SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, BUT FRITZ 8 + HARDWARE.
>
>In my PIV 1500 MHz with 48 MiB hash tables and all 3-4 and some
>5 piece endgame tablebases Fritz 8.00.8 solves this in 3:19 minutes.
>In a newer PIV 2.4 GHz and up or in a "super" hardware like that played with
>Kramnik, solution time will be much lower.
>
>Analysis by Fritz 8.00.8:
>
>1...Qf3xa3+ 2.Ka4xa3 Bd8-b6 3.Ka3-a4 g5-g4 4.Ka4-b5 g4-g3 5.Kb5xb6 g3-g2
>  -+  (-1.44)   Depth: 7/11   00:00:00  41kN, tb=4
>1...Qf3xa3+--
>  µ  (-1.16)   Depth: 8/12   00:00:00  104kN, tb=7
>1...Qf3xa3+ 2.Ka4xa3 Bd8-b6
>  µ  (-1.16)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  104kN, tb=7
>1...Qf3-c6+!
>  µ  (-1.19)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  250kN, tb=7
>1...Qf3-c6+ 2.b4-b5 Qc6-e4+ 3.Qa3-b4 Qe4xb4+ 4.Ka4xb4 Bd8-b6 5.Kb4-c4 Kg7-f6
>6.Kc4-d5 g5-g4 7.Kd5-c6
>  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  303kN, tb=8
>1...Qf3-c6+!
>  -+  (-1.59)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:01  1104kN, tb=21
>1...Qf3-c6+ 2.b4-b5 Qc6-c4+ 3.Qa3-b4 Qc4-a2+ 4.Qb4-a3 Qa2xa3+ 5.Ka4xa3 Bd8-b6
>6.Ka3-b3 Kg7-f6 7.Kb3-b4 Kf6-e5 8.Kb4-c4
>  -+  (-1.84)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:02  1234kN, tb=23
>1...Qf3-c6+ 2.b4-b5 Qc6-c4+ 3.Qa3-b4 Qc4-a2+ 4.Qb4-a3 Qa2xa3+ 5.Ka4xa3 Bd8-b6
>6.Ka3-b3 Kg7-f6 7.Kb3-b4 Kf6-e5 8.Kb4-c4
>  -+  (-1.84)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:04  2369kN, tb=94
>1...Qf3-c6+!
>  -+  (-2.13)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:17  10251kN, tb=438
>1...Qf3-c6+ 2.b4-b5 Qc6-c4+ 3.Qa3-b4
>  -+  (-2.16)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:19  11567kN, tb=497
>1...Qf3-c6+!
>  -+  (-2.44)   Depth: 12/35   00:00:36  21651kN, tb=975
>1...Qf3-c6+!
>  -+  (-2.72)   Depth: 13/46   00:02:31  88264kN, tb=6089
>1...Qf3xa3+!
>  -+  (-2.75)   Depth: 13/46   00:03:18  122931kN, tb=9254
>1...Qf3xa3+!
>  -+  (-2.91)   Depth: 13/46   00:03:18  122941kN, tb=9264
>1...Qf3xa3+!
>  -+  (-3.22)   Depth: 13/46   00:03:18  122955kN, tb=9274
>1...Qf3xa3+!
>  -+  (-3.84)   Depth: 13/46   00:03:18  122979kN, tb=9300
>1...Qf3xa3+ 2.Ka4xa3 Bd8-b6 3.Ka3-a4 g5-g4 4.Ka4-b5 Bb6-f2 5.Kb5-a5 g4-g3
>6.b4-b5 g3-g2 7.b5-b6
>  -+  (-9.13)   Depth: 13/46   00:03:19  123133kN, tb=9560
>1...Qf3xa3+--
>  -+  (-8.84)   Depth: 14/21   00:03:35  127706kN, tb=10063
>1...Qf3xa3+ 2.Ka4xa3 Bd8-b6 3.Ka3-a4 g5-g4 4.Ka4-b5 Bb6-f2 5.Kb5-a5 g4-g3
>  -+  (-8.69)   Depth: 14/31   00:03:35  127734kN, tb=10245
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------


Analysis by Fritz 8.0.0.8

1...Qxa3+ 2.Kxa3 Bb6 3.Ka4 g4 4.Kb5 Bf2 5.Kc6 g3 6.Kb7 g2 7.a7 Bxa7 8.Kxa7 g1Q+
9.Ka6 Qa1+ 10.Kb5 Qe5+ 11.Ka4 Qd4
  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 7/10   00:00:00  3kN
  -+  (-8.69)   Depth: 19/37   00:00:06  5302kN

(Pichard, Jorge's Home 21.07.2003)

Even without Tablebase can can solve this endgame




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