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Subject: Re: I'm not Trolling But.......

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 23:45:52 07/21/03

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On July 21, 2003 at 18:35:17, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On July 21, 2003 at 18:09:36, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>Hi Mihaly
>>
>>Congratulations: this was a typical game to demonstrate how to draw vs
>>the strongest computer programs. I am wondering how long it will take
>>the people to understand that it's not a too hard task to play at even
>>level vs the so called 2800 Elo giants. That such games are not very
>>interesting is of course another thing ...
>>
>>Kurt
>
>So can we say that when computers play not closed positions(open or "semi-open")
>have a strength of >2750 ELO, and when they play closed positions are <2600 or
>less?
>It's very difficult for me to believe that Kasparov/Kramnik/Volkof(lost 0-2
>from Shredder)/all the GM's IM's played in Argentina and lost from CT 14.0/
>the 3 GM's lost from CT 15.0 and many many others, don't know how to draw
>easily a program, playing a little "anti"-chess (boring-chess).

     I guess none of the above players and the GM's played in Argentina sat
     down with a draw in their mind. They all wanted to get a win vs the
     computer program. And that makes the difference. Never did I claim that
     a 2000 Elo player would be able to beat the best computer programs in
     a match over some games. In view of the overall strenght of today's
     programs, this is just impossible. But by playing with no risk at all,
     avoiding tactics, exchanging pieces whenever possible without disadvantage,
     it is possible to get a lot of draws vs the best programs and this even
     at the level of a 2000 Elo player.
     Kurt



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