Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:09:29 07/22/03
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On July 22, 2003 at 00:01:07, Matthew Hull wrote: >On July 21, 2003 at 23:29:11, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On July 21, 2003 at 23:14:52, Derek Paquette wrote: >> >>>Ok here is a hypothetical situation for you all. >>>I love debating chess, and so here is something to debate. >>> >>>There was talk a few years ago of a program actually being able to play for the >>>world championship. While this isn't happening, let us pretend for the sake of >>>this debate that it is true. >>> >>>How much money would it take to build a machine and the salary of programmers to >>>win a world championship match outright, >>>so a point where it is embarasing for the Grandmasters >>> >>>no draws, all wins, no loses >>>Is this possible right now? How much money would it cost >> >>Way, way more than the reward in monetary terms. >> >>>The saying is, "money can't buy everything" >>>only most things, is this possible? >>> >>>In my own opinion yes. >>>No investment by any one or two people could possibly afford this, >>>However if a corporation were to invest millions, they could topple the best in >>>the world, thoroughly, >>> >>>my own opinion of course >> >>Possible? Maybe. Hsu/Campbell could shrink and improve the chips by a couple >>orders of magnitude. They could use 1 million of them instead of 480. They >>could use a cluster of top of the line RS/6000 machines and improve/debug the >>programs and hardware. >> >>Probably a cost of 100 million dollars. >> >>There is absolutely no way that's going to happen. >> >>Of course, 20 years from now your desktop PC will be able to do the same thing. >>So why not just wait a bit. > > >Don't need to spend all that money! Not even one cent more. > >I'd bet any of the top programs could win a championship on current hardware, >simply because of the human fatigue factor. The programs we have now would >wear-down any of the top players in a 12 game match, no problem. > >Matt I doubt it. I suspect that the last matches were only show events and kramnik and kasparov simply did not want to win. I find it unfair that the programs did not qualify for the world championship by the usual way. I think that it is better if sponsors organize the world championship that is open also for machines and humans who refuse to play are not going to earn money so the top human players are going to play in it. Uri
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