Author: Sherry Washington
Date: 03:48:38 07/22/03
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On July 22, 2003 at 05:05:33, Joost Buijs wrote: >On July 22, 2003 at 04:49:27, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On July 22, 2003 at 04:41:41, Joost Buijs wrote: >> >>>Probably they won't score 30%. >>> >>>If we look at the worst case, the Smirin vs computer match, the computers were >>>having a performance rating of approximately 2610. These were old engines on >>>outdated hardware. >>> >>>Nowadays the hardware is about twice as fast, add 50 ELO points. >>>The latest engines (Fritz 8, Shredder 7) are at least 55 ELO points stronger, so >>>a very conservative estimate is that the best engines on modern hardware perform >>>at least at 2715 level. >>> >>>If we look at the ELO percentage expectancy table it is easy to see that a >>>player with ~2100 ELO, like Mr. Nemeth claims to have, has a chance of scoring >>>about 3% in a match with a player of 2715. >> >> >> Discussions about Elo are not important. I would admit: Eduard Nemeth >> will hardly be able to draw one single game vs a 2715 Elo player but this >> has no relation to fights vs computer programs where it is relatively easy >> to get a draw. There is a huge difference between playing vs strong humans >> or vs strong computer programs. >> Kurt > >Personally I don't see the difference. >But maybe thats just my stupidity. >We may need a proof of principle, i'm happy to invite you or Mr. Nemeth for a >controlled match against my dual 2800 on the playchess server. That's just it! These guys will post all these games claiming that computers are not playing at 2700 level because of a win or draw that they got, but these same players are no where to be found when you ask them to play a controlled match! The key is Controlled, where they can't take back moves, or force the computer to play into a prepared line.
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