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Subject: Re: Yace tablebase / bitbase test continued (long post)

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 09:39:26 07/22/03

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On July 22, 2003 at 12:25:06, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On July 21, 2003 at 16:09:50, Robert Allgeuer wrote:
>
>[...]
>>As a conclusion it appears that tablebases and bitbases are no real advantage
>>(which was also the result of previous experiments), although it is still not
>>clear - at least for me - why this is so. Any ideas?
>
>With respect to table bases the obvious drawback is the large cost of disk IO,
>which costs nodes or even depth.  While a EGTB hit saves searching a subtree,
>an equivalent result may often be achieved by a shallow search, which is
>significantly faster than the probing.
>
>For bitbases (which are much smaller) this effect should be much smaller,
>but then, the benefits of bitbases are also smaller.

The bitbases Yace uses are accessed from RAM (about 14 Mb for 3/4-men). There
should be no slow down effect at all. Actually accessing the bitbases is
significantly faster than a position evaluation.

Heiner (or anybody else), if you are interested in some discussion about this,
have also a look at the Winboard forum, where some other good points have been
raised.

http://f11.parsimony.net/forum16635/messages/51417.htm and followups.

Regards,
Dieter




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