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Subject: Re: is this the best simulation for processors and chess performance?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:04:01 07/22/03

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On July 22, 2003 at 15:09:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On July 22, 2003 at 14:54:48, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>
>You are comparing x86 executables here.
>That's like running 8 bits XT executables at the P4.
>
>Do you understand that?
>
>If not then it is useless to say that things will change for chess software a
>lot when there is native good x86-64 compilers for opteron (and future intel
>x86-64 platforms which does *not* include that 3.06Ghz Xeon MP).
>
>Note that the 3.06Ghz Xeon MP you show there is about $5000 a piece. spending
>$16000 to get 4 of them is pretty expensive therefore.

4 * $5000 == $16000?

strange math.


>
>Also note that most of the benchmarks are not close to how chessprogs react onto
>extra registers and such.
>
>>the second graph on this page:
>>
>>http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1818&p=5
>>
>>(general usage performance; business winstone 2002)
>>
>>and the 3rd graph on this page:
>>
>>http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/opteron-1_19.html
>>
>>Performance: Office and Content Creation Applications
>> business winstone 2002
>>
>> i have noted these bench marks correlate very well with chess benchmarks;based
>>on these the opteron does not seem much better than an athlon xp; infact one of
>>aaron's 2400 babies might thrash the opteron pretty badly;
>>
>>in all other tests the opteron is to put it mildly "pathetic" i doubt that
>>anyone will ever want to buy such a system esp when intel has come out with
>>this:http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=xeon3061MB&page=1



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