Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 19:05:49 07/22/03
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On July 22, 2003 at 04:49:27, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On July 22, 2003 at 04:41:41, Joost Buijs wrote: > >>Probably they won't score 30%. >> >>If we look at the worst case, the Smirin vs computer match, the computers were >>having a performance rating of approximately 2610. These were old engines on >>outdated hardware. >> >>Nowadays the hardware is about twice as fast, add 50 ELO points. >>The latest engines (Fritz 8, Shredder 7) are at least 55 ELO points stronger, so >>a very conservative estimate is that the best engines on modern hardware perform >>at least at 2715 level. >> >>If we look at the ELO percentage expectancy table it is easy to see that a >>player with ~2100 ELO, like Mr. Nemeth claims to have, has a chance of scoring >>about 3% in a match with a player of 2715. > > > Discussions about Elo are not important. I would admit: Eduard Nemeth > will hardly be able to draw one single game vs a 2715 Elo player but this > has no relation to fights vs computer programs where it is relatively easy > to get a draw. There is a huge difference between playing vs strong humans > or vs strong computer programs. > Kurt Absolutely correctly! If I and you Kurt it only on draw put on like that is quite possible it against the best computers - you have even some paint won on Tourn level (I recently also)! GM with 2700 Elo will let come it however not so far that draw a suspicious Game on the board comes. Computers however koennan do not differentiate. They are only programs and reel only their code off + their book. To Draw of games I can bring many, I show where I however rather win. :) German: Absolut korrekt! Wenn ich und Du Kurt es nur auf Remis anlegen so ist es gegen die besten Computer durchaus möglich - du hast sogar einige male gewonnen auf Tourn level (ich neulich auch)! Ein GM mit 2700 Elo wird es aber garnicht soweit kommen lassen dass ein draw verdächtiges Game auf das Brett kommt. Computer aber könnan nicht unterscheiden. Sie sind nur Programme und spulen nur ihren Code ab + ihr Buch. Remis games kann ich viele bringen, ich zeige aber lieber das wo ich gewinne. Best Regards, Eduard
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