Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 04:59:48 07/23/03
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On July 23, 2003 at 07:01:35, Fernando Alonso wrote: >On July 23, 2003 at 06:32:47, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On July 23, 2003 at 06:01:59, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>On July 23, 2003 at 05:13:39, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>> >>>>On July 23, 2003 at 04:26:38, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 23, 2003 at 02:47:13, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Below my commented game, a typical one to demonstrate the way humans may not >>>>>>play vs a strong computer. Hernandez Guerrero is surely a strong player 2544 >>>>>>Elo) but in this game you would not for a moment think that he had the white >>>>>>pieces. The human player followed a completely wrong strategy vs a computer >>>>>>and was - as usual in such cases - punished by Chess Tiger 15 in a nice >>>>manner. >>>>>>Kurt >> >> Mr Hernandez played a rather good game for having opponent a human but not >>for a computer. In your comments you disagree with some moves. These moves where >>good for playing with a human but really bad against a computer. He allowed many >>pieces on the board, give CT15 much space and the position wasn't close. Clearly >>madness. >> Anyway i saw the following game of CT15 in this tournament. I can't understand >>why it ended with a draw? >> >>[Event "I Magistral Ciutat de Cullera - A"] >>[Site "Cullera"] >>[Date "2003.07.16"] >>[Round "1.6"] >>[White "Chess Tiger 15.0"] >>[Black "Herraiz Hidalgo, Herminio"] >>[Result "1/2-1/2"] >>[ECO "A81"] >>[EventDate "2003.07.16"] >>[PlyCount "32"] >>[Source "lmi"] >>[SourceDate "2003.07.22"] >> >>1. Nf3 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. b3 Bg7 5. Bb2 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. d4 Qe8 8. c4 Na6 >>9. Re1 c6 10. a3 h6 11. Nbd2 g5 12. e4 fxe4 13. Nxe4 Nxe4 14. Rxe4 Bf5 15. Re3 >>Qd7 16. Qe2 Rae8 1/2-1/2 > >Hi, >the draw was agreed after some having some problems with the computer. At least >that´s what the report from that day said. >By the way, yet another win for the Tiger. If tiger was a human player what >would be the trainig to play against it? I understand it would be studing his >games and finding its strong and weak points. If professionals don´t do it >nowadays, it´s not tiger fault but theirs. At least this is my way of thinking. >Probably if the programs were given fide rating, professionals would behave in a >different way as their rating could chage in those games. But that is all an >imginary scenario, the only real thing is Tiger is clearly ahead of three GMs an >several IM, so it is playing better than them. It is also true that some >amateurs could teach those GMs and IMs how to play against computers because thy >know better those weak points, I find that perfectly reasonable too. >Here is the last game. >[Event "I Magistral Ciutat de Cullera - A"] >[Site "Cullera"] >[Date "2003.07.22"] >[Round "7.3"] >[White "Chess Tiger 15.0"] >[Black "Cabrera, Alexis"] >[Result "1-0"] >[ECO "B37"] >[PlyCount "55"] >[EventDate "2003.07.16"] > >1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 d6 7. Nc2 Bg7 8. Be2 >Nd7 9. Bd2 b6 10. O-O Bb7 11. f3 O-O 12. Qe1 a6 13. Be3 Re8 14. Qd2 Rc8 15. b3 >Bf8 16. Nd4 Qc7 17. Nd5 Qb8 18. Rad1 Bg7 19. Nc2 Ba8 20. Bh6 Bxh6 21. Qxh6 b5 >22. Rf2 Na5 23. Qd2 Nc6 24. Qg5 bxc4 25. Bxc4 Qb7 26. Nce3 Nb6 27. Nxb6 Qxb6 >28. Nf5 1-0 > >28 moves to beat a 2491 IM, I wish I could play that way :D. >Regards, >Fernando. 7.Nc2 was probably a nasty surprise for the IM. He obviously tried to exchange some pieces in the mainlines with Nxd4,Bc6 and Nd7. However it is not true that Tiger played better than them in all games. Tiger was completely outplayed by Mihail Marin. Unfortunately for him Marin missed the hard-earned win. [Event "I Magistral Ciutat de Cullera - A"] [Site "Cullera"] [Date "2003.07.20"] [Round "5.4"] [White "Chess Tiger 15.0"] [Black "Marin, Mihail"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "B09"] [BlackElo "2539"] [PlyCount "124"] [EventDate "2003.07.16"] [Source "lmi"] [SourceDate "2003.07.22"] 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 4. f4 Bg7 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Bd3 Na6 7. O-O c5 8. d5 Bg4 9. Bc4 Nc7 10. h3 Bxf3 11. Qxf3 e6 12. dxe6 fxe6 13. Be3 b6 14. Rad1 Qe7 15. Bc1 Kh8 16. g3 Rad8 17. Rfe1 Nd7 18. Qd3 Nb8 19. Kg2 a6 20. a3 b5 21. Ba2 Qf7 22. Be3 Nc6 23. Rf1 c4 24. Qd2 d5 25. Bc5 Rg8 26. e5 Bf8 27. Bg1 b4 28. axb4 Bxb4 29. Qe3 Bxc3 30. Qxc3 Rb8 31. b3 Nb5 32. Qa1 c3 33. Bb1 a5 34. Kh2 Qe7 35. Qa4 Qb4 36. Ba2 Rgd8 37. Be3 d4 38. Bc1 Ne7 39. Bb1 Nd5 40. Rfe1 Nb6 41. Qa2 Nd7 42. g4 Rf8 43. Rf1 Nc5 44. f5 gxf5 45. Bh6 Rf7 46. gxf5 exf5 47. Bg5 Ne6 48. Bh4 Rg8 49. Qa4 Rg6 50. Bf6+ Rfxf6 51. Qxb4 axb4 52. exf6 Rxf6 53. Rfe1 Na7 54. Re5 Nc6 55. Rd5 Nf8 56. Re1 Ng6 57. Kg3 Kg7 58. Rd7+ Rf7 59. Rd5 Nge7 60. Rd7 Ng6 61. Rd5 Nge7 62. Rd7 Ng6 1/2-1/2 [D] 6rk/5r1p/4n3/pn2Pp2/Qq1p3B/1Pp4P/2P4K/1B1R1R2 b - - 0 49 Here Marin after a long battle played 49...Rg6? and allowed Tiger to escape. Chesstigers position is completely lost after the correct 49...Qc5!. Michael
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