Author: Rajen Gupta
Date: 14:17:39 07/25/03
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i have noticed significant differences in behavious between ponder off and ponder on: and you cannot overcome these differences by giving extra time in ponder off. shredder and even more so junior have different time management than fritz: each of them uses up alomost all the allocated time in ponder on while fritz often uses much less; shredder and even more so junior think for a lot longer in crucial positions where they have to choose between different lines and play a lot more quickly at other times when there is only 1 good move; fritz does not show this behavior to the same extent; while playing with ponder off there is much less variation in time used per move as well as the total time taken for a set number of moves and hence the time management is almost similar between these programmes; these differences yield completelty different results in eng vs eng testing; the performance of shredder7 and junior is hugely better on 2 comps than on 1 against fritz8; if you like i can send you the games and results: as a result of these differences i have stopped considering any results with ponder off! On July 25, 2003 at 16:47:34, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On July 25, 2003 at 16:28:21, Rajen Gupta wrote: > >>any eng vs eng match with ponder off is completely meaningless and without any >>value: the results obtained do not in any way correspond with roughly equivalent >>time control when 2 computers/processors are used with ponder on! >> >>it is like have a race between runners who have one leg tied behind their back >>and have to hop on one leg or a boxing match in which the competitors are >>allowed to use only 1 hand. >> >>rajen > >You may be right, but i disagree in your statement "is completely meaningless". >Because i believe if Fritz 8 for example, is stronger from Shredder 7 without >pondering then it is more possible to be stronger also with pondering. >But for proving this we need of course two tournaments with a really huge number >of games in each one, one with pondering and one with not. >Until then it's better not to talk about if is meaningless or not.
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