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Subject: Re: Rebel 12 misses a mate in one?

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 16:20:37 07/25/03

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On July 25, 2003 at 18:05:40, Tony Werten wrote:

>On July 25, 2003 at 17:59:01, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On July 25, 2003 at 17:50:21, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>This position is NOT a mate-in-one.
>
>He didn't say that. The mate in 1 Rebel missed was a being mated in 1. ( It gave
>a 0.00 score )
>
>Tony
>


Thanks for the clarification, I misunderstood what he was saying.
Interestingly, I stepped away with the computer still going on this position.
Forget about the 50 move ruls for moment, this is a forced mate for black in 21
moves or less (F8 Gui while running Crafty will often displays the wrong mate in
xx score, undestating the mate-in xx by one..  -- It's an interface issue
between GUI and Crafty .)

New game
[d]8/8/6p1/6k1/3p2P1/4b2Q/4Bq2/7K w - - 0 1

Analysis by Crafty 19.04 SE:

1.Bd3 Qg1#
  -+  (-#1)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
1.Qxe3+ dxe3 2.Bd3
  -+  (-9.25)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
1.Qf1 Qg3
  -+  (-2.31)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bd3 Qh4+ 3.Kg2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh2 Bf4+ 5.Kh1
  -+  (-2.94)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  13kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bd3 Qh4+ 3.Kg2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh2 Bf4+ 5.Kh1
  -+  (-2.94)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  17kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bf3 d3 3.Qg2 Qe1+ 4.Kh2 Kf6
  -+  (-3.04)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  37kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bf3 d3 3.Qg2 Qe1+ 4.Kh2 Kf6
  -+  (-3.04)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  44kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 Qh4+ 3.Kg2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh1 Bf4 5.Qd3 Bg3
  -+  (-3.16)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  92kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 Qh4+ 3.Kg2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh1 Bf4 5.Qd3 Bg3
  -+  (-3.16)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  150kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 Qh4+ 3.Kg2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh1 Qh4+ 5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Qf3 Qc2+ 7.Be2 Kh6
  -+  (-2.89)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  211kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 Qh4+ 3.Kg2 Qxg4+ 4.Kh1 Qh4+ 5.Kg2 Qe4+ 6.Qf3 Qc2+ 7.Be2 Kh6
  -+  (-2.89)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  225kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qd1+ 6.Kf2 Qd3
  -+  (-5.36)   Depth: 10   00:00:01  709kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qd1+ 6.Kf2 Qd3
  -+  (-5.36)   Depth: 10   00:00:01  791kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qd1+ 6.Kf2 Qd3
  -+  (-5.36)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  972kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qd1+ 6.Kf2 Qd3
  -+  (-5.36)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  1061kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qe3+ 6.Kf1 Qc1+ 7.Kf2 Qc5+ 8.Kf1
Qe7
  -+  (-5.44)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  1668kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qe3+ 6.Kf1 Qc1+ 7.Kf2 Qc5+ 8.Kf1
Qe7
  -+  (-5.44)   Depth: 12   00:00:03  1940kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qe3+ 6.Kf1 Qc1+ 7.Kf2 Qc5+ 8.Kf1
Qe7
  -+  (-5.44)   Depth: 13   00:00:04  2888kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qe3+ 6.Kf1 Qc1+ 7.Kf2 Qc5+ 8.Kf1
Qe7
  -+  (-5.44)   Depth: 13   00:00:05  3276kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qd1+ 6.Kf2 Qxg4 7.Qd5+ Kf6 8.Qd8+
Kg7 9.Qd5
  -+  (-5.99)   Depth: 14   00:00:13  6565kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qd1+ 6.Kf2 Qxg4 7.Qd5+ Kf6 8.Qd8+
Kg7 9.Qd5
  -+  (-5.99)   Depth: 14   00:00:19  9183kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Kf1 Qxg4 7.Qd5+ Kh4 8.Qe4
Kh3 9.Ke1
  -+  (-5.99)   Depth: 15   00:00:31  13840kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Kf1 Qxg4 7.Qd5+ Kh4 8.Qe4
Kh3 9.Ke1
  -+  (-5.99)   Depth: 15   00:00:37  15862kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Kf1 Qxg4 7.Qd5+ Qf5 8.Qf3
Kf6 9.Qf2
  -+  (-6.26)   Depth: 16   00:01:05  28738kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Kf1 Qxg4 7.Qd5+ Qf5 8.Qf3
Kf6 9.Qf2
  -+  (-6.26)   Depth: 16   00:01:17  32663kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Qxg3 Bxg3
  -+  (-#20)   Depth: 17   00:14:34  632784kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Qxg3 Bxg3
  -+  (-#20)   Depth: 17   00:18:29  782390kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Qxg3 Bxg3
  -+  (-#20)   Depth: 18   00:21:18  882680kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Qxg3 Bxg3
  -+  (-#20)   Depth: 18   00:23:44  972455kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Qxg3 Bxg3
  -+  (-#20)   Depth: 19   00:33:33  1355091kN
1.Qf1 Qg3 2.Bc4 d3 3.Bxd3 Bf4 4.Qg2 Qxd3 5.Kg1 Qg3 6.Qxg3 Bxg3
  -+  (-#20)   Depth: 19   00:38:48  1556912kN

(Byrne, Secane, PA USA 25.07.2003)

Personally, I think the 50 move rule should be changed to 80 or 100.



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