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Subject: Re: Junior 8 can't mates with B+N !!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:34:04 07/27/03

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On July 27, 2003 at 06:27:48, Milorad Madjar wrote:

>On July 27, 2003 at 06:18:52, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>
>>On July 27, 2003 at 05:56:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 27, 2003 at 05:20:37, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>Junior 8 can’t mates without TBs with B+N !!!!!
>>>
>>>No surprise.
>>>A lot of programmers do not consider that knowledge as important when tablebases
>>>can solve the problem.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>As Junior8 is able to use tablebases for mating in a KBNK position and in the
>>CD of Junior there are all the 3-4 piece tablebases, there is no need to
>>add the proper knowledge.
>>If someone doesn't want to use tablebases with Junior it's OK. But of course
>>this should not be used as a reason to say that Junior 8 is stupid and don't
>>know chess. (I'm not refering to Mr Nemeth as i don't think he said that.
>>Although i don't understand what was the reason to post this).
>
>Of course, I think that is very stupid if one the best chess programs (or
>Kramnik, Kasparov, Fisher,Capablanka,  ....) don't know mates without TBs with
>B+N than he must see or read to Tbs or different book for mates!!!!!
>Regards
>Milan

I think that trying to compare top programs with humans is a stupid comparison.
Programs are supposed to solve some problems and the way that they solve it is
unimportant.

If humans are allowed to use book during games then I do not find it as stupid
if they do not learn the relevant books before the games.

programs are allowed to use tablebases in all the serious tournaments so
I do not find it as stupid if they do not have the relevant knowledge.

Uri



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