Author: Joost Buijs
Date: 04:46:15 07/27/03
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On July 27, 2003 at 06:39:56, Olaf Jenkner wrote: >On July 26, 2003 at 18:11:31, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On July 26, 2003 at 17:22:02, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On July 26, 2003 at 16:25:37, O. Veli wrote: >>> >>>>Since it is hardware, can >>>>we expect to be stronger than top software? >>> >>>I would expect it to be slower than top software, because cpu improvements >>>happen so quickly, and FPGA programming (from what I've heard) is not a simple >>>task. If he spends another two years working on it before releasing it (as >>>Slater said), just imagine how much faster the cpus will be by then. >>> >>>If you're talking about something massively parallel like Deep Blue, that is one >>>thing, but a single PCI card? I doubt that is going to do any better than break >>>even with top of the line hardware, so why bother? IBM threw so much hardware at >>>the problem that desktop cpu improvements wouldn't catch up for a LONG time, but >>>a single PCI card doesn't seem to be worth the trouble of programming the thing, >>>because desktop/server cpus will probably outperform it before too long. >> >>Chrilly already has a project with a university to do 100+ PCI Brutus cards. >> >>It's hard to 'see' what your HW is doing, although Chrilly and Hsu had/have >>educated guesses. Chrilly's latest 'guess' was 3M nps. Junior & Fritz get more >>than that on pretty standard PCs nowadays. Even Crafty could get that nowadays. >> I truly believe that Brutus' eval is not as complex or as refined as *any* of >>those. >> >>But the same technology that makes CPUs faster, make FPGAs bigger & faster too. > >Note that with FPGAs of the future the programm can run parallel at one chip. >I.E. 10 times the size of the chip means 10 parallel units of Brutus. > >OJe I don't think Brutus actually runs on the FPGA chip. Probably Brutus runs on the PC and uses the FPGA for move generation and evaluation purposes only. The whole problem with this scheme is the low speed of the current PCI bus.
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