Author: Jonas Bylund
Date: 05:28:49 07/27/03
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On July 27, 2003 at 07:37:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On July 27, 2003 at 06:31:58, Jonas Bylund wrote: > >>On July 26, 2003 at 17:22:02, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On July 26, 2003 at 16:25:37, O. Veli wrote: >>> >>>>Since it is hardware, can >>>>we expect to be stronger than top software? >>> >>>I would expect it to be slower than top software, because cpu improvements >>>happen so quickly, and FPGA programming (from what I've heard) is not a simple >>>task. If he spends another two years working on it before releasing it (as >>>Slater said), just imagine how much faster the cpus will be by then. >>> >>>If you're talking about something massively parallel like Deep Blue, that is one >>>thing, but a single PCI card? I doubt that is going to do any better than break >>>even with top of the line hardware, so why bother? IBM threw so much hardware at >>>the problem that desktop cpu improvements wouldn't catch up for a LONG time, but >>>a single PCI card doesn't seem to be worth the trouble of programming the thing, >>>because desktop/server cpus will probably outperform it before too long. >> >>The way i understand it, the whole idea with running FPGA is that no matter how >>much knowledge you add, you won't lose speed, will that not more than compensate >>for the PC programs gain through faster hardware? > >Quote from Chrilly Donninger Paderborn, februari a few years ago (98 or my >memory says 99 now): > "I do not believe in knowledge at all Vincent. You are taking the wrong path. >Nimzo in fact only grew stronger when i REMOVED knowledge from it". You kind of missed th point here, 1) Chrilly said in an interview that adding more knowledge would not slow down the engine when using FPGA (which probably also mean that your quote is outdated in the sense that some people have the ability to change their point of view) 2) The question was not wether Chilly believe/d in more or less knowledge= more or less strenght, the question was if the assumption that adding knowledge to the FPGA does not slow down the search is true, then does that not potentially compensate for hardware gain in conventional PC systems? >Someone who always follows simple solutions i could not possibly believe he >manages to put a lot of knowledge in hardware. Where 'a lot' is measured by 2300 >FM standards. Well this sounds like speculation to me, besides "someone" never always follow the same exact patterns, that is too black and white (no pun intended). Oh and BTW i did not know that 'a lot' had a rating :) Jonas
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