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Subject: Re: Simple AI Game Improved

Author: Maurizio De Leo

Date: 13:53:32 07/27/03

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Yes, I understand your complaints. Anyway, my pointer to Roshambo was for
letting people discover useful material, not for advertising the competition.

You can see that somewhere else in this thread people are "rediscovering the
wheel". For example sicilian reasoning (using the usual decision algoritm and
then make the opposite) or return to random play when losing to "cut the loss".

These and a lot of other ideas are present inside the roshambo bots of various
competition (a lot of which I think are freely available on the website) and I
hope that they will be useful for the discussion evolvin about "guessing
competition".

Maurizio



On July 27, 2003 at 15:54:26, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On July 27, 2003 at 07:59:48, Maurizio De Leo wrote:
>
>>I think there are already automated computer tournament. Not exactly this game,
>>but RoShamBo (rock - paper - scissor) which is the same except that you have
>>three possibilities instead of 2. Also there is no more the distinction between
>>the "chooser" and the "guesser", so games are more easy to do.
>>
>>As far as I can tell the programs are pretty complex, using a variety of
>>techniques, from "sicilian reasoning" to "statistical opponent modelization". If
>>I understand correctly there should be also a tournament sometimes in the near
>>future.
>>
>>Do a google search for "Computer RoShamBo" for more and more precise
>>information.
>
>There was a lot of stuff about computer RoShamBo competitions, but they seemed
>rather, umm, biased? They make odd requirements that your program must be
>written in a certain language and you must have a function return this or that.
>I wonder if these people have never heard of text pipes, which would mean anyone
>could write their program in any language they chose, independent of operating
>system or anything else. I guess that would require more work from the
>organizers to write a new match running program. It sounds fun and interesting,
>but I wouldn't enter that mess of a competition with those kind of requirements.
>They made things way more complicated for the participants than it needed to be.



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