Author: Matthew White
Date: 23:08:38 07/27/03
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On July 27, 2003 at 07:37:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On July 27, 2003 at 06:31:58, Jonas Bylund wrote: > >>On July 26, 2003 at 17:22:02, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On July 26, 2003 at 16:25:37, O. Veli wrote: >>> >>>>Since it is hardware, can >>>>we expect to be stronger than top software? >>> >>>I would expect it to be slower than top software, because cpu improvements >>>happen so quickly, and FPGA programming (from what I've heard) is not a simple >>>task. If he spends another two years working on it before releasing it (as >>>Slater said), just imagine how much faster the cpus will be by then. >>> >>>If you're talking about something massively parallel like Deep Blue, that is one >>>thing, but a single PCI card? I doubt that is going to do any better than break >>>even with top of the line hardware, so why bother? IBM threw so much hardware at >>>the problem that desktop cpu improvements wouldn't catch up for a LONG time, but >>>a single PCI card doesn't seem to be worth the trouble of programming the thing, >>>because desktop/server cpus will probably outperform it before too long. >> >>The way i understand it, the whole idea with running FPGA is that no matter how >>much knowledge you add, you won't lose speed, will that not more than compensate >>for the PC programs gain through faster hardware? > >Quote from Chrilly Donninger Paderborn, februari a few years ago (98 or my >memory says 99 now): > "I do not believe in knowledge at all Vincent. You are taking the wrong path. >Nimzo in fact only grew stronger when i REMOVED knowledge from it". > >Someone who always follows simple solutions i could not possibly believe he >manages to put a lot of knowledge in hardware. Where 'a lot' is measured by 2300 >FM standards. > >Trivially for 1100 beginners like Uri 'a lot' is like 1 day of work even for >Chrilly. > >Best regards, >Vincent > >>Also again if i understand correctly, you can make Brutus run on more than 1 >>chip, simply by adding more FPGA cards? >> >>Jonas I set Nimzo 8 kibitzing on a game as brutus played it on my 1.3 ghz athlon... Nimzo comes up with identical moves 99% of the time... Matt
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