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Subject: Re: Junior 8 can't mates with B+N !!

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 04:17:08 07/28/03

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On July 28, 2003 at 02:26:49, margolies,marc wrote:

>Ok terry, eduard-- I agree with both of you. Whenever you enter yourselfs in
>computer chess competitions from now on, you have may permission to bring all
>five volumes of eco with you into the computer competition from now on,
>similarly all five volumes of ece-- i'll right you a note for FIDE.
>Also, in fairness with fide rules, we should drug test the computer operators
>with serum and urine so that you boys wont be unfairly hampered as humans, which
>I still presume that you are.
>best regards, marc


No we're ALIENS....

Now what the hell are you talking about? I said programmes should have _all_
basic Endgame Knowledge....IE Fundamental Mates with K+Q vs K, K+R vs K ,
K+BB vs King, K+BN vs K, and how to win Basic Endgames, such as K+Q vs K+R etc.

I don't agree that EGTBS should be needed to cover this type of Elementry Chess
Knowledge. They also should understand a B of the Wrong Colour can't force a
pawn in on the Rook File, also they should see other Elementry Draws with  pawns
advanced to the seventh rank, IE Bishop File and Rook File can Force Draw
against K+Q vs K+P on these files if the opposing King is too far away and the
other King is there supporting these pawns.

Terry
>
>On July 27, 2003 at 13:20:54, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On July 27, 2003 at 13:11:39, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On July 27, 2003 at 05:56:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 27, 2003 at 05:20:37, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Junior 8 can’t mates without TBs with B+N !!!!!
>>>>
>>>>No surprise.
>>>>A lot of programmers do not consider that knowledge as important when tablebases
>>>>can solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>If junior TBS needs over to mates, and that is ok, then a question:
>>>
>>>Is it ok one if each humans in the play against computers likewise databases to
>>>then use may?
>>>
>>>All Endgame databases?
>>>
>>>All Opening databases?
>>>
>>>On my PC is the path to TBS,  D:\Nalimov.
>>>
>>>But Junior 8 however is on C: \  installed.
>>>
>>>I appeal in the future that in all tournaments each humans likewise "all"
>>>databases use may, because the computer does in principle the same.
>>>
>>>In chess one can mates usually only with K+Q, K+R, K+BB and K+NB.
>>>
>>>My opinion is that the each chessprogram that to be able should - otherwise he
>>>is not a good chess player!
>>>
>>>Original german:
>>>
>>>Wenn Junior TBS braucht um Mattzusetzen, und das ist ok, dann eine Frage:
>>>
>>>Ist es Ok. wenn jeder Mensch im Spiel gegen Computer dann ebenfalls Datenbanken
>>>benützen darf?
>>>
>>>Alle Endgame Datenbanken?
>>>Alle Opening Datenbanken?
>>>
>>>Auf meinem PC befinden sich die TBS auf der Platte D:\Nalimov. Junior 8 jedoch
>>>ist auf C:\ installiert.
>>>
>>>Ich appelliere künftig dass in allen Turnieren jeder Mensch ebenfalls alle
>>>Datenbanken nutzen darf, denn der Computer tut im Prinzip dasselbe.
>>>
>>>Im Schach kann man in der Regel nur mit K+Q, K+R, K+BB und K+NB mattsetzen.
>>>Meine Meinung ist die dass jedes Schachprogramm das können sollte  - sonst ist
>>>er kein guter Schachspieler!
>>>
>>>
>>>Eduard
>>
>>I agree!
>>
>>Terry



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