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Subject: Re: RebelXP plays MIKHAILTAL's move. Rebel 12 doesn't (see logs)

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 09:27:06 07/28/03

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On July 28, 2003 at 09:34:56, Rafael Vasquez wrote:

>Hello,
>
>As you can see in the logs Rebel12 will not see the move because of the
>slowdown problem. It sees 213.702.278 positions compared to
>3.258.718.357 that RebelXP see. I know that the nodes per second
>reported by RebelXP are not corect in the log, but it shows a steady
>more than 600.000 nodes per second in the screen. Rebel12 instead begins
>with more than 300.000 and finishes with 39.567 nodes per second which
>are the same shown in the screen. Please check in your computer and see
>the slowdown. It is both in analysis mode and in infinite-rebel to move.

Rafael, a couple of comments,

1) The strange NPS numbers are caused by an overflow of the counters, it is just
a harmless display glitch.

2) The worrying part comes from this:

00:00:07 10.00  1.39  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Rac1
00:00:44 11.00  1.49  1.c4 Qd8 2.cxd5 exd5 3.Rac1 Ng5 4.Kh1
00:06:49 12.00  1.32  1.c4 Qd8 2.cxd5 exd5 3.Rac1 Ng5 4.b4
00:32:01 13.00  1.30  1.c4 Qd8 2.Rf4 dxc4 3.Nxc4 Bd7 4.Nd6

The branch factor is 6-8 which is impossible in normal play. The only conditions
such a thing to happen:

a) Rebel 12 (DOS) has been set on the taskbar for some time either by ALT_TAB or
by an active screensaver;

b) Your processor is overheated;

c) Somewhere on your system another program is running that eats a lot of
processor time.

I suggest you to re-run the position.

My best,

Ed





>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>REBEL12
>Thinking....
>
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+   -
>8 | *R|   | *B|   | *Q|   | *K|   |
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  00:00:00      00:00:00
>7 |   | *p|   |   | *R| *p| *p| *N|
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>6 | *p|   |   |   | *p|   |   | *p|  Time          infinite
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Hash         400 Mb
>5 |   |   |   | *p| p |   |   | Q |  Engine        Rebel 12
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Personality   rebel.eng
>4 |   |   |   | p |   |   |   |   |  anti-GM       Off
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Tactics       Off
>3 |   |   | p | B | N |   |   | p |  Bluff Chess   Off
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Style         Normal
>2 | p | p |   |   |   |   | p |   |  Strength      Strongest
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Search        Nullmove
>1 | R |   |   |   |   | R | K |   |
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>
>r1b1q1k1/1p2rppn/p3p2p/3pP2Q/3P4/2PBN2P/PP4P1/R4RK1 w - -
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "??.??.????"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White ""]
>[Black ""]
>[Result "*"]
>[WhiteElo "?"]
>[BlackElo "?"]
>[FEN "r1b1q1k1/1p2rppn/p3p2p/3pP2Q/3P4/2PBN2P/PP4P1/R4RK1 w - - 0 1"]
>
>1.*
>
>00:00:00  1.00  0.65  1.Bxh7+ Kxh7 (2) (0.00)
>00:00:00  1.11  1.36  1.Rac1 (1) (0.00)
>00:00:00  1.22  1.40  1.Rae1 (1) (0.00)
>00:00:00  1.41  1.55  1.Qg4 (1) (0.00)
>00:00:00  2.00  0.95  1.Qg4 Ng5 (2) (0.00)
>00:00:00  2.01  1.14  1.Rae1 Rc7 (2) (0.00)
>00:00:00  2.08  1.39  1.c4 Qa4 (2) (0.00)
>00:00:00  3.00  1.00  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 Rc7 (4) (0.00)
>00:00:00  3.01  1.36  1.Rae1 Rc7 2.Qg4 (3) (0.00)
>00:00:00  3.15  1.43  1.Rf2 Rc7 2.Raf1 (3) (0.00)
>00:00:01  4.00  1.02  1.Rf2 f5 2.Qxe8 Rxe8 3.Raf1 (5) (0.00)
>00:00:01  4.06  1.41  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 b5 3.Be4 (5) (0.00)
>00:00:01  5.00  1.39  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 Ng5 3.Nd6 Qc6 (6) (2.00)
>00:00:01  6.00  1.15  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Rac1
>00:00:01  7.00  1.32  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nb6
>00:00:02  8.00  1.32  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nb6
>00:00:03  9.00  1.39  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Rac1
>00:00:07 10.00  1.39  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Rac1
>00:00:44 11.00  1.49  1.c4 Qd8 2.cxd5 exd5 3.Rac1 Ng5 4.Kh1
>00:06:49 12.00  1.32  1.c4 Qd8 2.cxd5 exd5 3.Rac1 Ng5 4.b4
>00:32:01 13.00  1.30  1.c4 Qd8 2.Rf4 dxc4 3.Nxc4 Bd7 4.Nd6
>
>Positions                :     213.702.278
>Nodes per second         :          39.567
>
>Extensions (checks)      :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (captures)    :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (king safety) :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (on depth)    :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (remaining)   :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (total)       :               0 (0%)
>
>Hash Table               : 4.756.574  2.529.682  (63%)
>Average depth            : 15
>Deepest depth            : 45
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>Thinking....
>
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+   -
>8 | *R|   | *B|   | *Q|   | *K|   |
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  00:00:00      00:00:00
>7 |   | *p|   |   | *R| *p| *p| *N|
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>6 | *p|   |   |   | *p|   |   | *p|  Time          infinite
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Hash         400 Mb
>5 |   |   |   | *p| p |   |   | Q |  Engine        Rebel XP
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Personality   rebel.eng
>4 |   |   |   | p |   |   |   |   |  anti-GM       Off
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Tactics       Off
>3 |   |   | p | B | N |   |   | p |  Bluff Chess   Off
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Style         Normal
>2 | p | p |   |   |   |   | p |   |  Strength      Strongest
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+  Search        Nullmove
>1 | R |   |   |   |   | R | K |   |
>  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>    a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>
>r1b1q1k1/1p2rppn/p3p2p/3pP2Q/3P4/2PBN2P/PP4P1/R4RK1 w - -
>
>[Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "??.??.????"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White ""]
>[Black ""]
>[Result "*"]
>[WhiteElo "?"]
>[BlackElo "?"]
>[FEN "r1b1q1k1/1p2rppn/p3p2p/3pP2Q/3P4/2PBN2P/PP4P1/R4RK1 w - - 0 1"]
>
>1.*
>
>00:00:00  1.00  0.65  1.Bxh7+ Kxh7
>00:00:00  1.11  1.36  1.Rac1
>00:00:00  1.22  1.40  1.Rae1
>00:00:00  1.41  1.55  1.Qg4
>00:00:00  2.00  0.95  1.Qg4 Ng5
>00:00:00  2.01  0.98  1.Rae1 f5
>00:00:00  2.07  1.04  1.Ng4 f5
>00:00:00  2.08  1.39  1.c4 Qa4
>00:00:01  3.00  1.00  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 Rc7
>00:00:01  3.02  1.09  1.Qg4 Ng5 2.Qh5
>00:00:01  3.11  1.12  1.Qh4 f5 2.exf6 Nxf6
>00:00:01  4.00  0.93  1.Qh4 Rc7 2.Rae1 Bd7
>00:00:01  4.01  1.10  1.Qg4 f5 2.exf6 Nxf6
>00:00:01  5.00  1.19  1.Qg4 f5 2.exf6 e5 3.Qf3
>00:00:01  5.02  1.19  1.c4
>00:00:01  5.02  1.39  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 Ng5 3.Nd6 Qc6
>00:00:01  6.00  1.15  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Rac1
>00:00:02  7.00  1.48  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nd6
>00:00:02  8.00  1.32  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nb6
>00:00:04  9.00  1.48  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nd6
>00:00:06 10.00  1.41  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nd6
>00:00:21 11.00  1.37  1.c4 Qd8 2.cxd5 exd5 3.Rac1 Ng5 4.Kh2
>00:00:45 12.00  1.39  1.c4 Qd8 2.Bxh7 Kxh7 3.Qh4 f6 4.exf6
>00:01:37 13.00  1.29  1.c4 Qd8 2.Bxh7 Kxh7 3.Qh4 f6 4.exf6
>00:04:05 14.00  1.36  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8 Rxe8 4.Nd6
>00:07:34 15.00  1.38  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8
>00:28:36 16.00  1.58  1.c4 dxc4 2.Nxc4 f5 3.Qxe8
>00:45:22 16.39  1.58  1.Rf6
>00:50:24 16.39  2.03  1.Rf6 gxf6 2.Bxh7 Kxh7 3.Ng4 Qf8 4.Rf1
>00:57:44 17.00  1.89  1.Rf6 gxf6 2.Bxh7 Kxh7 3.Ng4 Qf8 4.Rf1
>
>Positions                :   3.258.718.357
>Nodes per second         :   4.294.776.212
>
>Extensions (checks)      :     147.714.515 (-1%)
>Extensions (captures)    :      10.563.771 (-1%)
>Extensions (king safety) :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (on depth)    :               0 (0%)
>Extensions (remaining)   :       2.298.204 (0%)
>Extensions (total)       :     160.576.496 (-15%)
>
>Hash Table               : 74.188.014  37.668.389  (-70%)
>Average depth            : 20
>Deepest depth            : 60



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