Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:32:26 07/29/03
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On July 29, 2003 at 08:23:55, emerson tan wrote: >Deep Blue's 36.axb5 and 37.Be4 in game 2 of the match in 1997 along with Deep >Blue's 11...h5 in game 5 are the moves that made Kaparov to imply that there was >human intervention. > >Kasparov doesnt believe that Deep Blue or any other chess program can play moves >like those mentioned. > >I tried the positions on Deep Fritz 7 and Junior 5 and here are the results: > >Comp Deep Blue - Kasparov,G >[D]r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: > >37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qa6 Rd8 40.Qb7 Bb8 41.Be4 Bd6 42.Ra7 > ± (0.75) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 245kN >37.Qb6 Bc7 38.Qe6+ Qxe6 39.dxe6 Rxa2 40.Rxa2 Kf8 41.Kf1 Bb6 42.Ra6 Be3 43.Be4 > ² (0.69) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 428kN >37.Be4! > ± (0.72) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 488kN >37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qe6+ Qxe6 42.dxe6 Bb6+ 43.Kf1 >Kf8 44.Ke2 Ke7 > ± (0.75) Depth: 11/31 00:00:02 1729kN >37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qc5 Bd6 42.Qe3 Qe8 43.Ra5 Rb8 >44.Kh2 Qh5 45.Ra7 > ± (0.72) Depth: 12/31 00:00:04 3158kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 Rxa5 41.Rxa5 Qd8 42.Qg3 Qd7 43.Qg6 > ± (0.81) Depth: 13/34 00:00:16 12565kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 > ± (0.84) Depth: 14/39 00:00:34 26570kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Rb6 43.Rxb6 > ± (0.84) Depth: 15/37 00:00:50 40088kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 > ± (0.84) Depth: 16/40 00:01:24 67869kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >44.Kh2 > ± (0.84) Depth: 17/47 00:02:34 126289kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >44.Kh2 > ± (0.84) Depth: 18/48 00:05:29 269014kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Kf8 43.Qa7 > ± (0.84) Depth: 19/48 00:10:24 516602kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kh1 Rb8 > ± (0.84) Depth: 20/52 00:21:52 1082064kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 > ± (0.84) Depth: 21/55 00:45:23 2255740kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 > ± (0.84) Depth: 22/59 01:39:26 4936283kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kg1 Kg8 > ± (0.84) Depth: 23/65 03:51:24 11313418kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kg1 Bb8 > ± (0.84) Depth: 24/76 09:47:23 28378832kN > >(, MyTown 26.07.2003) > > >Comp Deep Blue - Kasparov,G >[D]r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: > >37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qa6 Rd8 40.Qb7 Bb8 41.Be4 Bd6 42.Ra7 > ± (0.75) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 245kN >37.Qb6 Bc7 38.Qe6+ Qxe6 39.dxe6 Rxa2 40.Rxa2 Kf8 41.Kf1 Bb6 42.Ra6 Be3 43.Be4 > ² (0.69) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 428kN >37.Be4! > ± (0.72) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 488kN >37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qe6+ Qxe6 42.dxe6 Bb6+ 43.Kf1 >Kf8 44.Ke2 Ke7 > ± (0.75) Depth: 11/31 00:00:02 1729kN >37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qc5 Bd6 42.Qe3 Qe8 43.Ra5 Rb8 >44.Kh2 Qh5 45.Ra7 > ± (0.72) Depth: 12/31 00:00:04 3158kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 Rxa5 41.Rxa5 Qd8 42.Qg3 Qd7 43.Qg6 > ± (0.81) Depth: 13/34 00:00:16 12565kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 > ± (0.84) Depth: 14/39 00:00:34 26570kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Rb6 43.Rxb6 > ± (0.84) Depth: 15/37 00:00:50 40088kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 > ± (0.84) Depth: 16/40 00:01:24 67869kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >44.Kh2 > ± (0.84) Depth: 17/47 00:02:34 126289kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >44.Kh2 > ± (0.84) Depth: 18/48 00:05:29 269014kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Kf8 43.Qa7 > ± (0.84) Depth: 19/48 00:10:24 516602kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kh1 Rb8 > ± (0.84) Depth: 20/52 00:21:52 1082064kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 > ± (0.84) Depth: 21/55 00:45:23 2255740kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 > ± (0.84) Depth: 22/59 01:39:26 4936283kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kg1 Kg8 > ± (0.84) Depth: 23/65 03:51:24 11313418kN >37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >44.Kg1 Bb8 > ± (0.84) Depth: 24/76 09:47:23 28378832kN > >(, MyTown 27.07.2003) > >Kasparov,G - Comp Deep Blue >[D]r2qk2r/pp3ppp/2p1pn2/4n3/1b6/3P2PP/PPPN1PB1/R1BQK2R b KQkq - 0 1 > >Analysis by Junior 5.0: > >11...Qa5 12.0-0 > ³ (-0.62) Depth: 3 00:00:00 1kN >11...Qa5 12.d4 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 > ³ (-0.39) Depth: 6 00:00:00 8kN >11...Qd4 12.a3 Bxd2+ 13.Qxd2 Rd8 > ³ (-0.47) Depth: 6 00:00:00 21kN >11...Qd4 12.a3 Bxd2+ 13.Qxd2 Rd8 > ³ (-0.47) Depth: 6 00:00:00 23kN >11...Qd4 12.0-0 Bxd2 13.Qxd2 0-0-0 14.Qg5 > = (-0.21) Depth: 9 00:00:00 70kN >11...0-0 12.a3 Ba5 13.b4 Bb6 14.0-0 Qd4 > ³ (-0.31) Depth: 9 00:00:00 111kN >11...0-0 12.a3 Ba5 13.b4 Bb6 14.0-0 Qd4 > ³ (-0.31) Depth: 9 00:00:01 434kN >11...0-0 12.0-0 Ned7 13.c3 Be7 14.d4 e5 > = (-0.21) Depth: 12 00:00:01 838kN >11...0-0 12.0-0 Ned7 13.c3 Be7 14.d4 e5 > = (-0.21) Depth: 12 00:00:05 5059kN >11...0-0 12.0-0 Ba5 13.Ne4 Ned7 14.Bg5 e5 15.d4 > = (-0.14) Depth: 15 00:00:07 7238kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.d4 Ng6 14.Be4 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Bc7 16.Be3 Ba5+ 17.Bd2 e5 > = (-0.24) Depth: 15 00:00:20 19835kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.d4 Ng6 14.Be4 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Bc7 16.Be3 Ba5+ 17.Bd2 e5 > = (-0.24) Depth: 15 00:00:51 47571kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 > = (-0.15) Depth: 17 00:01:22 77848kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 > = (-0.15) Depth: 17 00:04:39 250610kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 > = (-0.15) Depth: 18 00:05:31 298959kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 > = (-0.15) Depth: 18 00:11:58 629071kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.Nc4 Be7 16.0-0 b5 17.Ne3 Qb6 > = (-0.10) Depth: 19 00:14:07 746855kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.Nc4 Be7 16.0-0 b5 17.Ne3 Qb6 > = (-0.10) Depth: 19 00:33:27 1757903kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.Rf1 Qa5 14.d4 Ng6 15.c3 Qf5 16.Nc4 0-0-0 17.Ne3 Qb5 >18.Qxb5 cxb5 > = (-0.06) Depth: 20 00:41:01 2184898kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.Rf1 Qa5 14.d4 Ng6 15.c3 Qf5 16.Nc4 0-0-0 17.Ne3 Qb5 >18.Qxb5 cxb5 > = (-0.06) Depth: 20 01:33:33 677195kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Be3 Kb8 17.Nxf6 gxf6 >18.a4 > = (-0.05) Depth: 21 01:46:57 1431959kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Be3 Kb8 17.Nxf6 gxf6 >18.a4 > = (-0.05) Depth: 21 03:59:12 4231602kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Nxf6 gxf6 17.Be3 Kb8 >18.Bf3 Bc7 > = (-0.05) Depth: 22 04:28:34 1610632kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Nxf6 gxf6 17.Be3 Kb8 >18.Bf3 Bc7 > = (-0.05) Depth: 22 09:01:24 3130210kN >11...h5 12.Qe2 Qc7 13.c3 Bd6 14.d4 Ng6 15.h4 0-0-0 16.0-0 e5 17.Ne4 Be7 18.Ng5 >Rhf8 19.Qc4 Nd5 20.a4 > = (-0.06) Depth: 25 20:06:52 2794565kN > >(, MyTown 28.07.2003) > >It shows that given enough depth, some programs can replicate the moves. These programs are newer than 1997. For every position and every move it is possible to develop a program that is going to play the relevant move. I believe also that for every good move it is possible to generate modified crafty to play that move when the only modification is modifying weight in the evaluation(you only need to replace numbers in Crafty by different numbers) Uri
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