Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 12:40:25 07/29/03
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On July 29, 2003 at 03:51:58, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 29, 2003 at 03:25:07, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On July 28, 2003 at 19:58:20, Dan Simmons wrote: >> >>>On July 28, 2003 at 16:22:14, mike schoonover wrote: >>> >>>>to have vincent or not to have vincent? >>>>i have'nt an answer. >>>>i do know this. >>>>if i pulled one tenth of the crap he pulls,i wouild be banned here, >>>>and persona non grata in every chess forum on the net. >>>>becuase i am mike,not vincent. >>>>regards >>>>mike >> >>>I think that those most opposed to Vince don't necessarily want him banned, they >>>just realize that if they posted the same, they would be banned. And this >>>upsets them. Everyone is equal, some are just more equal than others. >> >>Well said Dan & Mike. >> >>Suppose Bobby Fischer starts posting here, would he be banned after a series of >>anti-semitic rants? If the mods would ban him they will receive the wrath of >>CCC, you don't ban a celebrity. >> >>We all are going to watch the next fight of Mike Tyson even when he bites the >>ear of the queen of England. Celebrity cuddling is global annd part of human >>nature, this is what Mr. Skinner overlooked when he started his campaign. >> >>Ed > >There is a difference. >Vincent never was a world champion and never won an important tournament. > >I do not understand why people give him supercomputer for the next championship. >They could do better by giving the super computer to another programmer. > >Today the situation is not clear because we have inferior programmer with better >hardware so every result is not going to be a surprise for me. > >I think that Amir Ban or Stefan mayer kahlan or Fransh morsh or Johan de koning >could do better with the same hardware and if one of them was invited to work on >the super computer I could be almost sure that the super computer is going to >win. > >I do not understand why the rich people who have a lot of money to spend on >using a super computer do not hire one of the people that I mentioned. > >Uri Diep is the only program that can run on this supercomputer. Chessbase hired Donninger. I assume he cannot get it to work at the supercomputer very well. The King is not even parallel so i do not understand you mention him here, as it will take him 6 years to get it to work i guess. Apart from that it is inline assembly his code, still using the watcom c++ compiler as he knows how it uses the registers. Though i guess he has a C version too. Frans Morsch has his program entirely in assembly so not a single highend machine will be capable of running Fritz. Amir Ban is parallel let's see with what kind of machine he shows up. I am sure though that a 500 processor machine is a waste for junior because it gets too many nodes a second. Perhaps they can get it to work at a 32 processor machine or something. Shredder tried to get working over a netwerk. Failed. Chessbase saw this already years ago of course. So they hired Donninger to do the job. Let's see how many processors it will use in world champs. You know my table. My table assumes that phase 1 is getting it dual to work. Phase 2 is 4-16 processors. Phase 3 is 32-64 processors. Phase 4 is 128-500 processors. Let's be clear. Donninger has 192 processors to his avail there. Each processor is a fast Xeon processor. Not sure to what processor they updated it this time. Probably something like a 3Ghz Xeon. Wuellenweber planned in 2002 to put 100 cards in that machine. Let's see how many they can get to work at it and how efficient it will be. Of course only when we get extensive logfiles available after or short before world champs then we can verify it. But from DIEP you will see all logfiles posted so you can check it out at your PC. My betatesters probably will be delighted to search single and dual cpu with the 100% same version and see what time it takes to get each search performed. So there is a lot of openness. I hope you realize that giving the system time of a supercomputer to the majority of your suggestions will mean that nothing runs at it. I know you do not bet at DIEP because of subjective feelings, but remember that with all the disasters happened it still got divided 5th in 2002. For 2003 you should give it quite a bit more credits though. Best regards, Vincent
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