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Subject: Re: New and interesting game

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 01:25:29 10/29/98

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I am supportive of new ideas.

I'd be interested to hear what priciples the players' are applying, and which
ones are more successful.

Unfortunately, over a long period, a particular way of writing chess programs
has come to be dominant, and it sometimes feels as though people are gradually
becoming less open minded to alternative ways of writing them. To some extent,
this must reduce the level of interest in chess programming.

On October 29, 1998 at 02:47:47, Frank Schneider wrote:

>In the current issue of the ICCA journal there was an interesting article
>about programs able to play games that they have to learn by themselfes,
>given only the rules of a game. For some time there is also a discussion
>about what might be the next AI-game after chess (for example Go or Shogi).
>
>This year there is an interesting competition at our university: the task is
>to write a program that controls two players of a 4-player rugball (simplified
>rugby/american football) -team.
>
>Program 1 controls the quarterback and the receiver
>Program 2 controls two other attackers
>Program 3 controls 2 defenders
>Program 4 controls 2 defenders
>Every program computes the moves for it's players and then a 'referee'
>solves collisions and makes the moves (if possible).
>
>Although it is a 'two player zero-sum game' the two main differences to Chess,
>Shogi and Go are, that two programs have to cooperate and that the moves of
>the other players (even the partner) are unknown. It is possible to do a little
>tree-search, but brute-force is too slow since there are more than 1.000.000.000
>possible combinations of moves of the 8 players.
>
>You can find more information (rules, referee-program, ...) in german here:
>http://www-i1.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/TdI98/
>
>If somebody is interested in details I can translate the most important facts
>into english.
>
>I'm going to participate in that competition, wrote a program and experimented
>a little. Now I think that this game is really interesting, because on the
>one hand it is more similar to real-world-problems than chess but on the other
>hand it is not too complex.
>
>What do others think?
>
>Frank



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