Author: emerson tan
Date: 04:54:37 07/30/03
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On July 29, 2003 at 08:32:26, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 29, 2003 at 08:23:55, emerson tan wrote: > >>Deep Blue's 36.axb5 and 37.Be4 in game 2 of the match in 1997 along with Deep >>Blue's 11...h5 in game 5 are the moves that made Kaparov to imply that there was >>human intervention. >> >>Kasparov doesnt believe that Deep Blue or any other chess program can play moves >>like those mentioned. >> >>I tried the positions on Deep Fritz 7 and Junior 5 and here are the results: >> >>Comp Deep Blue - Kasparov,G >>[D]r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: >> >>37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qa6 Rd8 40.Qb7 Bb8 41.Be4 Bd6 42.Ra7 >> ± (0.75) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 245kN >>37.Qb6 Bc7 38.Qe6+ Qxe6 39.dxe6 Rxa2 40.Rxa2 Kf8 41.Kf1 Bb6 42.Ra6 Be3 43.Be4 >> ² (0.69) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 428kN >>37.Be4! >> ± (0.72) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 488kN >>37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qe6+ Qxe6 42.dxe6 Bb6+ 43.Kf1 >>Kf8 44.Ke2 Ke7 >> ± (0.75) Depth: 11/31 00:00:02 1729kN >>37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qc5 Bd6 42.Qe3 Qe8 43.Ra5 Rb8 >>44.Kh2 Qh5 45.Ra7 >> ± (0.72) Depth: 12/31 00:00:04 3158kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 Rxa5 41.Rxa5 Qd8 42.Qg3 Qd7 43.Qg6 >> ± (0.81) Depth: 13/34 00:00:16 12565kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 14/39 00:00:34 26570kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Rb6 43.Rxb6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 15/37 00:00:50 40088kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 16/40 00:01:24 67869kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >>44.Kh2 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 17/47 00:02:34 126289kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >>44.Kh2 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 18/48 00:05:29 269014kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Kf8 43.Qa7 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 19/48 00:10:24 516602kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kh1 Rb8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 20/52 00:21:52 1082064kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 21/55 00:45:23 2255740kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 22/59 01:39:26 4936283kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kg1 Kg8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 23/65 03:51:24 11313418kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kg1 Bb8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 24/76 09:47:23 28378832kN >> >>(, MyTown 26.07.2003) >> >> >>Comp Deep Blue - Kasparov,G >>[D]r1r1q1k1/6p1/3b1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp5/2P4P/R1B2QP1/R5K1 w - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Deep Fritz 7: >> >>37.Qb6 Rxa2 38.Rxa2 Bc7 39.Qa6 Rd8 40.Qb7 Bb8 41.Be4 Bd6 42.Ra7 >> ± (0.75) Depth: 9/20 00:00:00 245kN >>37.Qb6 Bc7 38.Qe6+ Qxe6 39.dxe6 Rxa2 40.Rxa2 Kf8 41.Kf1 Bb6 42.Ra6 Be3 43.Be4 >> ² (0.69) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 428kN >>37.Be4! >> ± (0.72) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 488kN >>37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qe6+ Qxe6 42.dxe6 Bb6+ 43.Kf1 >>Kf8 44.Ke2 Ke7 >> ± (0.75) Depth: 11/31 00:00:02 1729kN >>37.Be4 Rxa2 38.Qxa2 Rd8 39.Qa6 Qd7 40.Qb6 Bc7 41.Qc5 Bd6 42.Qe3 Qe8 43.Ra5 Rb8 >>44.Kh2 Qh5 45.Ra7 >> ± (0.72) Depth: 12/31 00:00:04 3158kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Qc8 40.R6a5 Rxa5 41.Rxa5 Qd8 42.Qg3 Qd7 43.Qg6 >> ± (0.81) Depth: 13/34 00:00:16 12565kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 14/39 00:00:34 26570kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Rb6 43.Rxb6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 15/37 00:00:50 40088kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 16/40 00:01:24 67869kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >>44.Kh2 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 17/47 00:02:34 126289kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Kh8 41.Kh1 Kg8 42.Qa7 Bf8 43.Kg1 Bd6 >>44.Kh2 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 18/48 00:05:29 269014kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Kf8 43.Qa7 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 19/48 00:10:24 516602kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kh1 Rb8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 20/52 00:21:52 1082064kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 21/55 00:45:23 2255740kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kh1 Kg8 45.Ra6 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 22/59 01:39:26 4936283kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kg1 Kg8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 23/65 03:51:24 11313418kN >>37.Be4 Rcb8 38.Ra6 Qd8 39.Kh2 Rxa6 40.Rxa6 Rb7 41.Qg3 Rb8 42.Qe3 Rb7 43.Rc6 Kh7 >>44.Kg1 Bb8 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 24/76 09:47:23 28378832kN >> >>(, MyTown 27.07.2003) >> >>Kasparov,G - Comp Deep Blue >>[D]r2qk2r/pp3ppp/2p1pn2/4n3/1b6/3P2PP/PPPN1PB1/R1BQK2R b KQkq - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Junior 5.0: >> >>11...Qa5 12.0-0 >> ³ (-0.62) Depth: 3 00:00:00 1kN >>11...Qa5 12.d4 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 >> ³ (-0.39) Depth: 6 00:00:00 8kN >>11...Qd4 12.a3 Bxd2+ 13.Qxd2 Rd8 >> ³ (-0.47) Depth: 6 00:00:00 21kN >>11...Qd4 12.a3 Bxd2+ 13.Qxd2 Rd8 >> ³ (-0.47) Depth: 6 00:00:00 23kN >>11...Qd4 12.0-0 Bxd2 13.Qxd2 0-0-0 14.Qg5 >> = (-0.21) Depth: 9 00:00:00 70kN >>11...0-0 12.a3 Ba5 13.b4 Bb6 14.0-0 Qd4 >> ³ (-0.31) Depth: 9 00:00:00 111kN >>11...0-0 12.a3 Ba5 13.b4 Bb6 14.0-0 Qd4 >> ³ (-0.31) Depth: 9 00:00:01 434kN >>11...0-0 12.0-0 Ned7 13.c3 Be7 14.d4 e5 >> = (-0.21) Depth: 12 00:00:01 838kN >>11...0-0 12.0-0 Ned7 13.c3 Be7 14.d4 e5 >> = (-0.21) Depth: 12 00:00:05 5059kN >>11...0-0 12.0-0 Ba5 13.Ne4 Ned7 14.Bg5 e5 15.d4 >> = (-0.14) Depth: 15 00:00:07 7238kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.d4 Ng6 14.Be4 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Bc7 16.Be3 Ba5+ 17.Bd2 e5 >> = (-0.24) Depth: 15 00:00:20 19835kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.d4 Ng6 14.Be4 Nxe4 15.Nxe4 Bc7 16.Be3 Ba5+ 17.Bd2 e5 >> = (-0.24) Depth: 15 00:00:51 47571kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 >> = (-0.15) Depth: 17 00:01:22 77848kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 >> = (-0.15) Depth: 17 00:04:39 250610kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 >> = (-0.15) Depth: 18 00:05:31 298959kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.0-0 Ng4 16.Bf3 N6e5 >> = (-0.15) Depth: 18 00:11:58 629071kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.Nc4 Be7 16.0-0 b5 17.Ne3 Qb6 >> = (-0.10) Depth: 19 00:14:07 746855kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 0-0 15.Nc4 Be7 16.0-0 b5 17.Ne3 Qb6 >> = (-0.10) Depth: 19 00:33:27 1757903kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.Rf1 Qa5 14.d4 Ng6 15.c3 Qf5 16.Nc4 0-0-0 17.Ne3 Qb5 >>18.Qxb5 cxb5 >> = (-0.06) Depth: 20 00:41:01 2184898kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Bd6 13.Rf1 Qa5 14.d4 Ng6 15.c3 Qf5 16.Nc4 0-0-0 17.Ne3 Qb5 >>18.Qxb5 cxb5 >> = (-0.06) Depth: 20 01:33:33 677195kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Be3 Kb8 17.Nxf6 gxf6 >>18.a4 >> = (-0.05) Depth: 21 01:46:57 1431959kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Be3 Kb8 17.Nxf6 gxf6 >>18.a4 >> = (-0.05) Depth: 21 03:59:12 4231602kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Nxf6 gxf6 17.Be3 Kb8 >>18.Bf3 Bc7 >> = (-0.05) Depth: 22 04:28:34 1610632kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Ng6 13.c3 Bd6 14.h4 Qd7 15.Ne4 0-0-0 16.Nxf6 gxf6 17.Be3 Kb8 >>18.Bf3 Bc7 >> = (-0.05) Depth: 22 09:01:24 3130210kN >>11...h5 12.Qe2 Qc7 13.c3 Bd6 14.d4 Ng6 15.h4 0-0-0 16.0-0 e5 17.Ne4 Be7 18.Ng5 >>Rhf8 19.Qc4 Nd5 20.a4 >> = (-0.06) Depth: 25 20:06:52 2794565kN >> >>(, MyTown 28.07.2003) >> >>It shows that given enough depth, some programs can replicate the moves. > >These programs are newer than 1997. > >For every position and every move it is possible to develop a program that is >going to play the relevant move. > >I believe also that for every good move it is possible to generate modified >crafty to play that move when the only modification is modifying weight in the >evaluation(you only need to replace numbers in Crafty by different numbers) > >Uri Deep Fritz was not develope to play deep blues moves, it can play any other positions well.
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