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Subject: Re: Null move question

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 09:15:18 08/02/03

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On August 02, 2003 at 11:12:29, Tony Werten wrote:

>>To summarize, a score can be considered "exact" only if it has been achieved
>>independent of alpha and beta bounds. This is the case only if we are at a leaf
>>node with full evaluation, or other node with alpha < value < beta.
>
>Or when a checkmate score is returned or a drawscore or ....

This is not true.

Consider a case where beta<=0, the first move you search bring back a draw score
(say, forced repetition).
Now you fail high without checking the rest, but you could have had a mating
move or another winning line you didn't search. So it will just be a lower
bound.

Mate scores are another matter I think.

>Sorry if I tell you something new, this is old stuff.
>
>When not doing any extensions ( not realistic but anyway) the values returned
>from the last 2 plies from normal search are exact. (As was published 15 years
>ago)

I don't believe that, and I think my example above shows it.

-S.

>Tony
>



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