Author: Janosch Zwerensky
Date: 01:35:00 08/04/03
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On August 04, 2003 at 00:31:37, Mark Young wrote: >On August 03, 2003 at 18:30:50, Lei , Shiann-Tzong wrote: > >> >>I can play a rated game with fritz 8 or junior 8 or Shredder 7 >>and set it to the lowest rating . and win it many times a day . >> >>If you have a rating over 2400 elo , you can post your human vs machine games >>here . >>If not , don't post it . >I agree. > >It is a con job when people post games here showing wins over the top computer >programs. I would not call for example the games Kurt Utzinger posted here, of which one was a win against the machine, "con jobs". I think that at least these were genuine, in the sense of not being the result of a lot of trial and error on Utzinger's side. If one plays ultra-solid chess and tries not to achieve anything beyond a draw, quite often a top program will not try hard enough get into an unbalanced position and the human, although a much weaker player than the program, will get his draw (or even rarely win if horizon effect strikes on the computer side, or more often lose, if the human misses some tactical shot). I am not sure that not knowing the opening book used by the program will make much of a difference, although I admitt that this is a real possiblity. However, I also think that any player below master level would be dead meat against the top programs no matter how they approached the problem if not only the opening book but also the relevant parts of the evaluation function of a strong program would be tuned in advance for anti-patzer-play. Regards, Janosch
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