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Subject: Re: NO MORE human vs computer game again

Author: Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz

Date: 04:32:22 08/04/03

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On August 03, 2003 at 18:30:50, Lei , Shiann-Tzong wrote:

>
>I can play a rated game with fritz 8 or junior 8 or Shredder 7
>and set it to the lowest rating . and win it many times a day .
>
>If you have a rating over 2400 elo , you can post your human vs machine games
>here .
>If not , don't post it .
>I don't belive anyone without a 2400+ rating can defeat computer
>without anyone "Help" .
>
>According to Shredder 7 play in argentina , can  support my view-point .


Actually, if a human vs computer game is interesting enough, it can be quite
useful for computer chess programmers to refine their own engines' evaluation
and search functions, because they can correct potential weaknesses by using
these games as tests.

I don't really care whether anyone has spent a week analyzing positions, taking
back moves when they didn't work, and other "unfair" things, as long as they can
post a good game where the computer running in a good processor (enough hash,
etc), and has spent enough time per move to play at full strength... and still
didn't see it "coming".

After all, they are not increasing they ELO or stealing any prize for these
games, are they?

I particularly find sad those games where some rather funny guys claim they have
beaten this or that engine, and then I analyze the game using the same machine,
and never plays the moves they have posted; furthermore, a quick analysis shows
that some of the moves are crap, and not even the worst amateur machine would
ever play such moves. What are they trying to prove?

As I said, I quite like some of the games sometimes, and I find them useful for
me.

I suggest that you don't read them if you're not interested, but I do.

Regards

   Jaime Benito



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