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Subject: Re: NO MORE human vs computer game again

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 03:01:21 08/05/03

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On August 04, 2003 at 18:36:27, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On August 03, 2003 at 18:30:50, Lei , Shiann-Tzong wrote:
>
>>
>>I can play a rated game with fritz 8 or junior 8 or Shredder 7
>>and set it to the lowest rating . and win it many times a day .
>>
>>If you have a rating over 2400 elo , you can post your human vs machine games
>>here .
>>If not , don't post it .
>>I don't belive anyone without a 2400+ rating can defeat computer
>>without anyone "Help" .
>>
>>According to Shredder 7 play in argentina , can  support my view-point .
>
>Mathematically, you are wrong.
>
>If a player rated 500 points below a machine in real strength plays enough
>games, he will win one of them.
>
>It may take quite a lot of games.  But this is not an opinion, it is a fact.
>

Actually, as long as an entity (human or computer) does not play perfect chess,
it can be beaten even by a random mover (choses at each turn one move randomly
among the legal moves available).
Of course the probability of a random mover defeating even a complete beginner
is very low, it is easier to win the lottery by buying a single ticket.
José.

>This assumes simply playing games based on strength.  If the human is clever at
>learning computer weakesses or playing anticomputer chess, it may tip the
>balance somewhat.
>
>Win expectency for a difference of 0 points is 0.5
>Win expectency for a difference of 100 points is 0.359935
>Win expectency for a difference of 200 points is 0.240253
>Win expectency for a difference of 300 points is 0.15098
>Win expectency for a difference of 400 points is 0.0909091
>Win expectency for a difference of 500 points is 0.0532402
>Win expectency for a difference of 600 points is 0.0306534
>Win expectency for a difference of 700 points is 0.0174721
>Win expectency for a difference of 800 points is 0.00990099
>Win expectency for a difference of 900 points is 0.00559197
>Win expectency for a difference of 1000 points is 0.00315231



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