Author: Pavel Blokhine
Date: 07:52:28 08/05/03
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On August 05, 2003 at 10:01:52, zeidoun wrote: >Yes Kurt, the book choice has an important issue in the games result. In my >little experience, i've already noticed this and i've submitted many questions >and also many responses in this forum. But the fact is that i'm not Kurt >Utzinger nor Harald Faber, I'm just Zied Haddad from the chesslovers. >As i mailed to u i've developed new settings for shredder 7.04 that fit not only >the blitz time controls but also rapid time controls like 25mn games. This >superb setting is shredder 7.04_Attack1.2, u will find it in my homepage at: >http://www.chesslovers.tk/ u have then to check the english page (the other >pages are for the moment no longer up-dated). You enter then into the tournament >page u will find the details there. I haven't yet up-dated my page to show you >how incredible is the strength of this new setting for shredder in 25mn games >but also in blitz games. >It won clearly against all the top 10 engines in individual matches (making for >example 70% of the points against Fritz 8, where shredder 7.04 with his >beginning settings wins only with a games up). But i've tried an overall >simultaneous match with the top 25 commercial rated programs (exept the king), >and i'm surprised with a poor peformance against some oldies programs (shredder >is rated normally more than 150 points of ELO), this poor performance is due to >the choice of the opening. >In my test, i used 5 modified positions from the Nunn1 TestSet. The position >from which all the programs begin to play rises after 5 or 9 moves. All these >positions are with equal chances for both parts, none of these positions are >played with an anti-computer style (for example we choose to only develop our >paws and our pieces in the third line). My purpose was to ovoid the influence of >book opening. And all the positions where played with black and white to show >the real strength of the engines. >I previously posted a question dealing with the learning option that's delivered >with shredder or hiarcs, but none has responded to me, i think that's because >none has thought about this point of view. Wait for the next upate of my site to >check the games and the rating of this new shredder setting. I think that this >prooves that not only chessmaster but also shredder could be improved, and i >think that this is a good point for these programs, because their conceptors >could give us in the next future a more powerful product. <it not the case of >fritz that reached out his adult age where the development of newer algorithms >will be more and more difficult. I also think that the next development of fritz >could be may be the search for new settings. Hi! Can you post those strong settings for Shredder here because I wasn't able to find then in your site. When I play an engines tournaments on my computer, Shredder 7.04 doesn't appear to be as strong as SSDF says or as advertised; that no matter what book I use. Some people even told me that maybe it's because I need to disable the Huperthreading Technology on my dual Xeon. But I would sure love to test your settings. Thanks
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