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Subject: Re: Jeff Sonas is wrong Shredder 7.0 could NOT performs 2755................

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 10:40:07 08/05/03

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On August 05, 2003 at 05:14:13, Helmut Conrady wrote:

>On August 04, 2003 at 12:52:53, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On August 04, 2003 at 02:00:17, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>
>>>On August 02, 2003 at 04:18:52, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 17:24:03, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 15:36:19, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 07:54:47, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 05:34:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 05:22:38, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 04:50:36, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 03:53:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On August 01, 2003 at 02:45:28, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On July 31, 2003 at 16:21:45, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jeff Sonas is wrong Shredder 7.0 could NOT performs at 2755 against a solid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>group of players or single players like GM Seirawan or GM Smirin with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>machine XP 1600+. It all depends on the experience of the players against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>computer programs NOT just their ratings :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1089
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Why the heck are they even using 7.0?
>>>>>>>>>>>>why not use 7.04?
>>>>>>>>>>>>are they trying to give the humans a chance :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Maybe they use 7.0x and call it 7.0
>>>>>>>>>>>Did someone check if the moves are reproducable by shredder7?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>what the hell? I ran all shredder versions for analysis and non could reproduce
>>>>>>>>>>some of the moves, must be an entirely new shredder version
>>>>>>>>>>yay! better to come
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I don t think SMK will not compete with his newest version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Helmut
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I guess you mean his best tested version because I do not think that he is going
>>>>>>>>to compete with a version that he did not test to be better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The question is if SMK is competing or a user of shredder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Reports like "shredder7.0" make the impression that SMK does not compete and if
>>>>>>>>SMK does compete then it is a false report.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It is not the first time that chessbase give wrong information so I am not
>>>>>>>>surprised.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi to all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shredder playing in Argentina is 100% commercial 7.0 version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neither CB or Stefan have arranged this or supplied something different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I know this because I have asked it myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The new version of Shredder will partecipate the WCCC. We are currently working
>>>>>>>on it. Then you'll see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ciao
>>>>>>>Sandro
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ah thank you very much for the information, I have a question however.
>>>>>>Maybe you can't answer it....but
>>>>>>How is your new version of Shredder doing compared to 7.04
>>>>>
>>>>>Tests say: a couple of Elos stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>>Helmut
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>not all of them!
>>>>
>>>>Well, the new Shredder 8.0 is not ready yet as we are still working on it.
>>>>
>>>>Our target is to have a version at least 50 points stronger than 7.04.
>>>>
>>>>Will we be able to reach such a target?
>>>>
>>>>I leave it up to you.
>>>>
>>>>Ciao
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>In your post readers have to read between the lines, in mine, too.
>>>
>>>Helmut
>>
>>Hi Helmut,
>>
>>You are right.
>>
>>I have done it on purpose.
>>
>>I'll leave it to Stefan to give more info whenever he wants to.
>
>
>Hi Sandro!
>
>This might be the best. :)
>Keep on your good work!
>
>Helmut


Hi,

thanks!

Sandro



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