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Subject: Re: Who would win in a match Shredder against Leko?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:41:07 08/05/03

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On August 05, 2003 at 11:37:13, Rajen Gupta wrote:

>hi shrerry: this type of guesswork is merely an academic exercise: the outcome
>depeds a lot upon the conditions of a match:
>
>eg the deep blue match was clearly unfair to kasparov: he had no knowledge
>whatsoever about how deep blue evaluated in various positions:

deeper blue also had no knowledge about evaluation of kasparov in various
positions.

>
>the fritz vs k and the junior vs kasparov matches on the other hand were loaded
>completely against the programmes:i dont think it is fair that each of them had
>a copy of the final version months before the match:

Kasparov had no copy of of the final version before the match
and I think that we should ignore the matches of kramnik and kasparov when the
humans chose not to win the matches.


 as every one knows a
>computers moves are reproducible: and a computer savvy gm can quite easily
>manoevre a comp into a certain position:
>
>what would "in my opinion" be fair is:
>
>the software should not be available to the gm although he could use earlier
>versions of the software to test:
>
>the gm should be allowed to see how a computer evaluates certain positions of
>his choice wih all the evaluation lines etc:
>
>should have access to several hundred games played by the comp against other
>comps or alternatively be allowed to play a few tune up games or positions
>himself against the computer in order to familiarise himself with the playing
>style (this could be done through a remote server to eliminate any chances of
>actually copying the programme and should also be limited to the amount of time
>he could "practise" against the comp)
>
>alternately nominate a human to play a few games against the comp who would then
>report the comps strengthss and weaknesses to he gm:
>
>no restrictions on the use of egtb's

Does it mean that leko can also use them?

Uri



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